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Lawsuit may threaten Hobbit films (Tolkien heirs stiffed by Hollywood)
The West Australian ^ | Jul 16, 2009 | unattributed

Posted on 07/16/2009 6:59:56 PM PDT by ruination

New Zealand film-maker Peter Jackson may have more in common with JRR Tolkien's heirs than he thought - they are also complaining about big studio accounting methods.

Tolkien's family and a British charity they head, the Tolkien Trust, are seeking more than $US220 million ($276.94 million) in compensation for the Lord of the Rings trilogy Jackson made in New Zealand.

The Tolkien heirs sold movie rights to the LOTR books 40 years ago for 7.5 per cent of future receipts, but say that three films and $US6 billion ($7.55 billion) later, they have not seen a cent of the proceeds.

Jackson himself threatened to sue the New Line studio in a separate row over royalties from the Lord of the Rings, leading then studio chief Bob Shaye to declare that the New Zealander would "never" make The Hobbit.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: hollywood; lotr; movies; tolkien
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Contrast this with Hollywood's reaction to movie pirating.
1 posted on 07/16/2009 6:59:56 PM PDT by ruination
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To: ruination

So who is directing the hobbit?

Couldn’t do better than what Jackson did with LOTR. Didn’t even think they could have pulled it off.


2 posted on 07/16/2009 7:05:25 PM PDT by modest proposal (We got short-changed.)
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To: modest proposal

Guillermo Del Toro is set up to direct both Hobbit films.


3 posted on 07/16/2009 7:08:22 PM PDT by bobwoodard
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To: modest proposal

I think Guillermo del Toro, with Jackson heading production. As long as slimy studio bosses like the repulsive Bob Shaye don’t mess things up, they should be good.


4 posted on 07/16/2009 7:11:28 PM PDT by ruination
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To: ruination

Under the old copyright legal tradition, the “heirs” would have long since lost their claims.


5 posted on 07/16/2009 7:12:05 PM PDT by Mamzelle (OBAMA MIND TRICK)
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To: ruination

Sad they weren’t clued in. As they say here in LA, “there’s no such thing as a back end.”

It also keeps Bawnry Fwank from moving here.


6 posted on 07/16/2009 7:15:00 PM PDT by jessduntno (You quit when you're in over your head. You resign when there isn't enough challenge.)
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To: ruination

I guess their creativity extends to their bookkeeping.


7 posted on 07/16/2009 7:16:07 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Mamzelle

No they wouldn’t have because they sold the movie rights 40 years ago under the old system and that contract is still legal and still enforceable and they’ve been gipped by a slimy studio.

7.5% of receipts is a tidy sum that they haven’t seen a penny of and it’s been 3 years since the last LOTR was made. Somebody belongs in freaking jail, IMO.


8 posted on 07/16/2009 7:16:26 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Ping


9 posted on 07/16/2009 7:18:26 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: ruination

Having worked in Hollywood, I can tell you these left wing producers are the greediest thieve on earth. They even rip each other off.


10 posted on 07/16/2009 7:20:23 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: ruination

Always a % of the GROSS RECEIPTS!!!!

AND, a very strict payment schedule!!!

Like, MONTHLY!!!


11 posted on 07/16/2009 7:21:35 PM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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Sad they weren’t clued in. As they say here in LA, “there’s no such thing as a back end.”

It also keeps Bawnry Fwank from moving here.

Much to Waxman's frustration.

12 posted on 07/16/2009 7:22:35 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 177 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: null and void

It also keeps Bawnry Fwank from moving here.
Much to Waxman’s frustration.

THAT would be a cute couple...Pig Man and the Soiled Unmade Bed...


13 posted on 07/16/2009 7:24:49 PM PDT by jessduntno (You quit when you're in over your head. You resign when there isn't enough challenge.)
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To: ruination
I don't understand--
what is the connection here
to Sarah Palin?!

14 posted on 07/16/2009 7:28:11 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: jessduntno
You really don't want the pictures.

Trust me.


15 posted on 07/16/2009 7:31:47 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 177 of our national holiday from reality.)
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“Guillermo Del Toro is set up to direct both Hobbit films.”

They’re going to be set in Spain during the Franco regime.

Gollum will be a Spanish Fascist and Bilbo will be a freedom fighter.

Sorry, some of Del Toro’s stuff makes me gag.


16 posted on 07/16/2009 7:35:30 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: ruination
The Tolkien heirs get 7.5% of the gross, or 7.5% of the net, of movie receipts? I've never even been to California, but I know that studio accountants can "prove" that the last Hollywood movie to make money was Gone With the Wind, and that it didn't break even until 1962.
17 posted on 07/16/2009 7:37:16 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: null and void

This is pretty typical for Hollywood. Studios never ‘make’ money on any film. They charge off for “studio overhead” at $500,000 per day; etc. By their accounting, they always lose money.

And if you want to sue them, you’ve got to hire your own accountants to do an audit of the entire studio books (at $500 a day?) to work forever and ever; plus pay attorneys, etc.

And even then you might lose.

(Morale to the story: get all your money up front; or a percentage based on the GROSS receipts, not the NET; and get it paid AT ONCE, like YESTERDAY, not later.)


18 posted on 07/16/2009 7:38:42 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: modest proposal; Corin Stormhands

I like LOTR, but they totally cut out Tom Bombadil. They also left out the scene with elves between the flight from the Shire to the meeting with Aragorn at the Prancing Pony.

I’ve not figured out why those omissions, other than time and budget. Other than those, they kept fairly well to the storyline, iirc.


19 posted on 07/16/2009 8:02:10 PM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends all who ask Him for help.)
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To: ruination

I hope the family sues them to hell and back and wins.


20 posted on 07/16/2009 8:34:19 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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