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Lawsuit may threaten Hobbit films (Tolkien heirs stiffed by Hollywood)
The West Australian ^ | Jul 16, 2009 | unattributed

Posted on 07/16/2009 6:59:56 PM PDT by ruination

New Zealand film-maker Peter Jackson may have more in common with JRR Tolkien's heirs than he thought - they are also complaining about big studio accounting methods.

Tolkien's family and a British charity they head, the Tolkien Trust, are seeking more than $US220 million ($276.94 million) in compensation for the Lord of the Rings trilogy Jackson made in New Zealand.

The Tolkien heirs sold movie rights to the LOTR books 40 years ago for 7.5 per cent of future receipts, but say that three films and $US6 billion ($7.55 billion) later, they have not seen a cent of the proceeds.

Jackson himself threatened to sue the New Line studio in a separate row over royalties from the Lord of the Rings, leading then studio chief Bob Shaye to declare that the New Zealander would "never" make The Hobbit.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: hollywood; lotr; movies; tolkien
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To: xzins

I really missed seeing the Scouring of the Shire.


21 posted on 07/16/2009 8:37:33 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: ccmay

I gave them credit for that in the brief “premonition” that Frodo had (I think it was Frodo) in the movie. It wasn’t by the book, though, you are right.

Also, I don’t think they adequately portrayed the affection that developed between Faramir and Eowyn, but there was the slightest nod toward it at the end of the movie.


22 posted on 07/16/2009 8:43:57 PM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends all who ask Him for help.)
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To: ruination
Poor studios barely broke even, sniff, and there ain't no contract till a court several years from now sez there is.

Pirating movies? That's not honest! says Hollywood.

23 posted on 07/16/2009 9:14:54 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: xzins
" Other than those, they kept fairly well to the storyline, iirc."

There is one scene which is portrayed as the common misinterpretation which irks me far more than Bombadils absence...

Eowyn does not slay the Witch King. Eowyn is a Man, not an Elf, Dwarf, nor Orc, but a Man and as such is incapable of harming the Witch King. Merry is not a Man but a Hobbit.

Every critical action throughout the books is completed and can only be completed, though its value often goes unnoticed and results misattributed by the powerful to the powerful, by the Hobbits which are the embodiment of the common man. The idea that Tolkien decided to take a moment to deviate from this and celebrate female empowerment is asinine.

It was Merry who had already struck the killing blow. Though "behind the knee" would not normally be mortal, Merry was carrying a barrow blade enchanted to slay undead and when he used it the runes released a power which left Merrys right arm numb and "my sword burned all away like a piece of wood."

24 posted on 07/16/2009 10:00:43 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive-mind liberals worship "leaders". Sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: ruination
Here is the key:
New Line was to pay a percentage of all gross receipts, after deducting 2.6 times the production costs, plus advertising expenses in excess of a certain amount, according to Eskenazi.

25 posted on 07/16/2009 11:05:40 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: HairOfTheDog; ecurbh; Bear_in_RoseBear

Ring pingage...


26 posted on 07/17/2009 3:18:48 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Valpal1
it’s been 3 years since the last LOTR was made

Actually it has been more than five years since the last LOTR movie won the Academy Award.

27 posted on 07/17/2009 3:26:55 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: xzins; modest proposal; HairOfTheDog; ecurbh; Bear_in_RoseBear

IMHO, the movies were not perfect. But they were darn near as close as you could get without making them 2-3 times as long.

They didn’t capture everything in the books. But they did a pretty darn good job of capturing the spirit of the books.


28 posted on 07/17/2009 5:47:12 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Corin Stormhands

Which I agree with almost completely. The real ommission was Tom Bombadil who didn’t get any mention whatsoever.

My question really has to do with what their thinking was on leaving Bombadil out. Bombadil is quirky, and that could be it. Also, Bombadil is an aside that really doesn’t move the story along. That could have been the thinking.

What did Tolkien see Bombadil accomplishing?


29 posted on 07/17/2009 5:51:43 AM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends all who ask Him for help.)
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To: xzins
Bombadil is an aside that really doesn’t move the story along.

True. Why put him into a movie? He neither starts nor resolves a storyline. Dead weight, the only dead weight in all 4 books IMHO.

30 posted on 07/17/2009 5:56:31 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE crimes.)
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To: xzins

Even Tolkien in his later writings was not sure what to do with Bombadil. He agreed that the character did not move the story along, but he was left in the original manuscript. I think he planned on developing Bombadil later in the story and never did, but that is just a guess.


31 posted on 07/17/2009 6:01:21 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Deb

Better hop on. The gravy train is leaving the station.


32 posted on 07/17/2009 6:05:31 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: gnarledmaw

Another point that caused me to search the books was Galadriel’s warning about Boromir to Frodo. I actually thought I remembered that in the books and searched all over for it, but never found it. Turns out it wasn’t there.

But I sure had the impression that it was. Don’t know how that happened unless it was some other foreshadowing regarding Boromir that my memory was falsely attributing to Galadriel.


33 posted on 07/17/2009 6:15:04 AM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends all who ask Him for help.)
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To: AppyPappy
Someone I know quite well signed a deal with his original contract that gave him a % of the "net" LOTR merchandising profits. Every quarter on the dot I get a statement saying, "Oh, no, guess what? No profits again this quarter. See ya next time." The lawsuit for all the actors is about 7 years old. Nothing so far.

There's no way to win against the studio and their three sets of books.

34 posted on 07/17/2009 9:26:45 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

We watched The Rockford Files on the Retro Channel while we were at the beach. I was thinking to myself “Yep Jim, you aren’t getting paid for this one either”.


35 posted on 07/17/2009 11:38:45 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

Garner finally succeeded in getting to Universal’s third set of books, but it took YEARS and cost him a fortune plus his TV career. He decided someone had to do it.


36 posted on 07/17/2009 11:44:02 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

My daughter wants to go to University of North Carolina at Wilmington because it has a film school. I told her to double major in Accounting.


37 posted on 07/17/2009 11:56:43 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

Haha! Good advice, Dad. If there was a course in Show-Biz Accounting that would be even more perfect.


38 posted on 07/17/2009 11:58:45 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: AppyPappy

Wise advice. I would love to go to a film school, but I’m too realistic about the business side and I figure I’d starve long before I made a good living.


39 posted on 07/17/2009 12:00:21 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Deb

One of my fraternity brothers works in film and I see one of his jobs was Accounting Clerk. The rest seemed to be Office Production Assistant. She could do stuff like that. Thankfully, she has NO interest in acting.

His one acting bit was listed as “Drunk Party Guy”. I doubt he had trouble pulling that off.


40 posted on 07/17/2009 1:03:00 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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