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ATF to Tennessee: We're Above Your Law
Examiner.com ^ | 07/17/09 | David Codrea

Posted on 07/17/2009 5:55:50 PM PDT by Copernicus

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To: Copernicus

ATF .... really painting themselves into a corner.


61 posted on 07/17/2009 11:13:04 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Only feces and dead fish go with the flow.)
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To: ForGod'sSake
Thanks for the ping. A brief history of Tennesseans is in order.

Tennessee is known as the "Volunteer State" for the overwhelming, unexpected number of Tennesseans who volunteered for duty in the American Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the Texas Revolution (most notably the Battle of the Alamo) and especially the Mexican-American War, as well as an overwhelming number of citizens volunteering for both sides of the Civil War. A UT athletic team was dubbed the Volunteers for the first time in 1902 by the Atlanta Constitution following a football game against the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets.

Even before Tennessee became a state the residents were quick to respond: John Sevier and other "overmountain men" volunteered during the Revolutionary War. John Sevier asked for 100 men, and 200 responded. They were key factors in the battle of King's Mountain in October 1780.

During the War of 1812 volunteers from Tennessee once again answered the call of service by serving with the State Militia until their General Andrew Jackson was asked to take charge of all Federal forces in an effort to stop the British from taking New Orleans. During the Battle of Horseshoe Bend the Tennesseans earned a great victory over the "Redstick" group of renegade indians that had been terrorizing the frontier.
Following this they followed "Gen'l Andy" to New Orleans. The townsfolk and militia barely had time to build breastworks of cotton bales across the seaward approach to the city before British troops began landing from their transports, anchored at the mouth of the river. In the close formations they had used against the French in Spain, the British attempted to carry the breastworks by assault. The Tennessee riflemen, crouching and firing behind their cotton bales, shattered each wave of attackers before it could come within volleying distance. As in the Battle of King’s Mountain, the British losses were heavy, while only a handful of Americans fell.

Although newspapers published during the War of 1812 do not specifically use the term "Volunteer State" when referring to Tennessee, there are numerous references to "the volunteers from Tennessee" or "the Tennessee Volunteers."

A small band of volunteers from Tennessee jumped into the fray to assist Texas in gaining their independence from Mexico. Col. David Crockett and several volunteers traveled the long journey only to end up as a little mission in San Antionio, Texas. This was better known as the Alamo. After several days of delaying the Mexican Army to protect and allow a fellow Tennessean - Sam Houston, to reorganize the Army of the Republic of Texas, they were all killed.

Newspapers referred to Tennessee as the "Volunteer State" during the Mexican War after Governor Aaron Brown issued a call in May 1846 requesting 2,800 volunteers for military service and 30,000 responded.

The BATF can kiss it.

http://www.techography.com/article.php?story=20071121081217513

62 posted on 07/17/2009 11:30:29 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: El Gato
States don't have rights, only powers. People, and only people, have rights.

It's shocking how few (Conservatives included) understand this simple fact.
63 posted on 07/17/2009 11:30:38 PM PDT by WackySam (The fact that there are 24 hours in a day, and 24 beers in a case, is not a coincidence.)
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To: Copernicus

People forget State’s Rights effectively ended when Woodrow Wilson rammed through the direct election of Senators.

Best regards to all,
__________________
BS, time will tell.


64 posted on 07/17/2009 11:44:19 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: eyedigress
The BATF can kiss it.

Indeed. Tennesseans sound a good deal like Texans, at least Texans of bygone days; less so these days probably. The PTB have done their part to emasculate most of the male WASPs in the country. Even so, you'll rarely find a practicing Texan that'll back down from a good bare knuckle contest, given the proper motivation. Like lookin' at 'em crossways...

65 posted on 07/17/2009 11:50:58 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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To: Copernicus; Travis McGee
People have a tendency, especially those in big government, to forget that Tennesseans don't tolerate outside interference to the same extent that others might...

Hell, we don't even tolerate inside interference that well, either... For those that wonder what that means, read up on "The Battle of Athens Tennessee."

The bill to which the article refers was House Bill 1796... It was no coincidence that it bore the same number as the year Tennessee became a state: 1796. We worked hard to get that bill passed. It is a statement, a warning you might say, to the federal government - BACK OFF! While we knew that we would get the response from BATFE that we did, the purpose was to put them on notice that we will not sit idly by and let them walk on us. And I would say the we will see this tested in the courts - that was the plan. If you aren't making waves, the boat is not going anywhere.

A long time ago, when I was a little kid, I was out with my dad visiting one of his friends. The old boy had a blood hound lying out in the back yard... Well, I didn't care much for the conversation, so I decided to go play with the dog. He was old, and he was overweight, too. He also didn't want to be bothered by some 5 year old kid. But I didn't understand that... So I picked up a stick and poked at him a bit trying to get him to play with me. Well after about the fifth poke, he was up and about ready to eat me for lunch. I still don't know how I made it through the screen door without getting at least one good bite on my backside or at least a leg. Lesson learned: You can only poke an old dog with a stick for so long before he gets up and goes after you on his own ground.

So, BATFE, you just keep own poking that old dog and see what happens...

Molôn Labé! You bunch of MikeFoxtrots!

We've about had it with your disregard for the Constitution of the United States... We've seen about enough corruption in government, all for the purpose of self-preservation of the bureaucracy. You are already up to about the fourth poke of the old dog... Are you going to keep poking? Remember though... There are plenty that are better trained than you. But perhaps your big government elitist attitude won't let you admit that. So just keep on poking, and get ready for an education.

/rant

Regards,
Raven6

66 posted on 07/17/2009 11:54:22 PM PDT by Raven6 (The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

An illegal in Gilbert, AZ looked at me crossways in a bar once. (I had a Tennessee hat on) He proceded to throw punches out of the blue. They picked him up off the floor a minute later.


67 posted on 07/17/2009 11:57:11 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Raven6

The Battle of Athens is a classic. I grew up in Blount County, just a tad north.


68 posted on 07/18/2009 12:02:02 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: ForGod'sSake
As Texas Rangers were once described:

they “ride like Mexicans, shoot like Tennesseans, and fight like the very devil..."

I've always though of Texans as my brothers and sisters on the other side of the Mississippi River. Hooray, the Bonnie Blue!

Regards,
Raven6

69 posted on 07/18/2009 12:02:13 AM PDT by Raven6 (The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.)
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To: Raven6

All of my Texas friends consider us well connected. It’s an honor.


70 posted on 07/18/2009 12:08:29 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Repeal The 17th

>>“State’s Rights effectively ended when Woodrow Wilson
rammed through the direct election of Senators.”
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It started way before that...<<

Yeah, some guy named Lincoln ended the rights of states to be sovereign. Not to mention the total disregard for the Constitution. Have any doubts? Read the Constitutions of WV, SD and NV to see where the power lies.

The dark clouds of war are forming. And to think it could have been avoided.

Deo vindice


71 posted on 07/18/2009 2:05:02 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: Copernicus

The BATF is a gang of racists and anti-Bill of Rights thugs. Is the Tennessee office still holding the annual Good Old Boys Round Up?


72 posted on 07/18/2009 2:16:11 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Joe Brower

Bang.


73 posted on 07/18/2009 2:17:11 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Copernicus

It is time for the Sheriff’s in Tennessee to make a statement to the BATF that they will enforce Tennessee law, and they will arrest all BATF agents who attempt to circumvent it.

An ELECTED county sheriff has more authority than a hired BATF agent.


74 posted on 07/18/2009 2:38:50 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: shibumi

Did you see this one my friend?


75 posted on 07/18/2009 2:52:14 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Third World trickle up poverty, will lead to cascading Third World tyranny.)
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To: Raven6

Good ref Raven to ‘The Battle of Athens Tennessee’! Tennessean’s will not be a doormat to corrupt, overbearing Guberment...especially the ‘Overmountain men & women of East Tennessee, the true home of the Volunteers.


76 posted on 07/18/2009 2:57:10 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: IbJensen

A.T.F. Sounds like a bucket of crap to me.
A.T.F. should have been shut down after Ruby Ridge, WACO Elian Gonzalsz and so many other illegal unAmerican actions.
And a whole lot of the bastards should have gone to jail some for life. Right there Mr. Horiuchi you murdering piece of crap.


77 posted on 07/18/2009 4:02:33 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Patrick)
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To: flash2368

Kel lite is made in Florida.


78 posted on 07/18/2009 4:03:13 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Patrick)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Let’s see some butthead in the federal govt. send in some feds boobs to Texas to stop them.
They’ll get locked up in Texas jails.


79 posted on 07/18/2009 4:05:14 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Patrick)
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To: Joe Boucher
ATF is an utterly useless money sucker! It's staffed with smartasses with problems making it America's problem.

There are many other bureaus that need removal as well, but this one amounts to misery for citizens.

80 posted on 07/18/2009 4:06:26 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholics voted based upon the teachings of the church, there would be no abortion and no Obomba.)
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