Posted on 07/17/2009 9:06:13 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
BAUCUS: The president is not helping us. He does not want the exclusion. That's making it difficult, with these taxes moved off the table, it is still difficult to come up with the revenue measures and other savings measures. (END VIDEO CLIP) BAIER: That's a top Democrat saying the president is not helping. CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER...: That's not a good sign. But the worst today, I think, was what emperor's new clothes moment, which occurred with Senator Conrad, who is a Democrat, chairman of the budget committee, and, as we saw, you had the impartial Congressional Budget Office exploding what is the central contradiction of the Obama idea. It's been out there for months, and Democrats have pretended it doesn't exist. It is Obama's says over and over again that our spending on health care is destroying our budget and is unsustainable. Now we have to cut it. And his cure is to institute a huge new entitlement, which is going to be incredibly expensive. It always stood out there as insane. And what we heard is that the CBO was asked about it, he said, well no he was asked of the plan's coming out of the Congress, and his answer was they not only are not going to reduce the costs, they are going to increase it. So it's not enough if they're revenue neutral, which would continue what Obama says is unsustainable. They are going to bend the curve upwards. And that, I think, is a fatal bullet to this entire idea. BAIER: So down the line, does it get done by the August recess? KRAUTHAMMER: Absolutely not. ... ...
KRAUTHAMMER: They could pass an aspirational bill, which has no numbers and says revenue will be decided later.
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The solution to this problem is so simple that I can’t understand why the Commie ‘RATS can’t figure it out. Force everyone into the ObamaCare fiasco and then have the government bureaucrats deny everyone’s requests for medical care.
He would ensure that the government bureaucrats would not deny medical care to the illegal aliens.
Obama would settle for that. I think it's likely that's what they'll do.
They need to drop this like a hot rock. Why they want to force this on innocent people is beyond me. Surely there are some decent Democrats who would not do this to the people.
They could pass an aspirational bill, which has no numbers and says revenue will be decided later.Charles puts it together in a nutshell!
the very essence of incrementalism
Get off of it. I am sure there are a few.
Get any “thing” passed, then add the poison to it later when our side has their guard down.
LIBERALISM IS THE WORST TYPE OF CANCER.
Please reach out to all you know, least we turn over the keys of life and death to politicians - who already have the keys to finances.
Shove it!
Mostly Obama wants us not to have time to read this bill and react.
A bill without financing is a bill. A blood bath over the financing will not stop it.
this needs to be stopped now,,I get so irritated with the threads on Palin and Cronkite and all that when this is so vital.
THis needs halting now.
This bill requires seniors (anyone over 55) to discuss with their physician and some panel ‘Advanced Directives” to make sure they understand what a burden they will be to the nation if they want excessive treatment. Every FIVE years they are required (forced) to do this again. Do you understand you are a burden to society??? You do not want a hip replacement, heart bypass, etc. Die already????
Brought to you by the Democrat party and Obama.
If they don't go for the whole enchilada, they might lose support from the most liberal Congresspersons and Senators.
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