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If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Prior thread ^ | July 18, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *

(continuing my remarks from prior thread)

Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:

The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.

We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.

The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.

We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.

The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.

We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.

The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.

The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).

The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.

Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.

Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.

The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.

No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.

The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

The Federal Reserve.

Border security.

Medicare.

FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.

Federal Pensions.

Etc, etc, etc.

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.


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1 posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Bookmark for further action.


2 posted on 07/18/2009 11:31:41 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT

Go Jim go!


3 posted on 07/18/2009 11:31:52 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Jim Robinson

If you keep this up you’re going to get Olberman’s worst person in the world honor again. :)

Jim Thompson... snicker....


4 posted on 07/18/2009 11:32:52 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m afraid the present government would never relinquish it’s power by peaceful means.


5 posted on 07/18/2009 11:34:52 AM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (Zero will never be my President, never!!!!!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Hopefully, Oberman will read and report on this.


6 posted on 07/18/2009 11:35:27 AM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I have been ready to march on Washington for months. In my memory, I recall the effective bottle-necking of the city by farmers during Carter's time.

My air-miles and I are ready to go!

7 posted on 07/18/2009 11:35:44 AM PDT by dersepp (Orwell Was An Optimist)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am on board.


8 posted on 07/18/2009 11:36:17 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Good start! I would love to see several million Americans put their Federal taxes in a “lock box” either with a lawyer or a bank - refuse to pay anymore federal taxes until the current crop of tax cheats have been removed and the fiefdoms of Barny Frank, Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters, Barbara Boxer to name a few, have been removed from this government. Clean out the State Department and remove Erick Holder from his position as chief sheriff, he is not doing his job, he is working for Obama only.


9 posted on 07/18/2009 11:36:53 AM PDT by yoe (Pay attention to what Obama does NOT what he says.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Reporting for duty.

 

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10 posted on 07/18/2009 11:37:54 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Jim Robinson

Bless you, Jim.


11 posted on 07/18/2009 11:38:13 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson

First thing it would do is scare the crap of all the politicians. Could you imagine a speaker whipping the crowd into a frenzy? “They are not our rulers, they’re our servants! We shouldn’t fear them, they should fear us!”

Crowd stomps and chants “Fear us! Fear Us!”

Windows rattle. Chandeleirs sway. Bureaucrats huddle in basements in fear, aides cry in the corner.

“They do not own us. We will no longer remain silent. We shall be heard!”

It would be glorious. I expect the politicians would all be taking the day off. It would have to be on a weekday, the media would be able to ignore us completely on weekends.

It must be a very long event, a short rally will not cut it.

Forget the park or the mall, we will pack the entire federal district if we had millions. For one day, at least, we would own DC.

and *sigh* MSNBC anchors making sexual jokes.
and a paragraph about it would appear in the NY Times on page B-7.

IMO.


12 posted on 07/18/2009 11:38:54 AM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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To: Jim Robinson

at first I was it was a big opus from Jim Thomspon


13 posted on 07/18/2009 11:39:32 AM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

Maybe a 5-million gun-owner March on DC would be in order if things get bad enough., I wonder if the media would ignore it?


14 posted on 07/18/2009 11:41:01 AM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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To: All

Block all entrances to the Senate , block traffic , caus eserious civil unrest . That’s just for openers


15 posted on 07/18/2009 11:42:33 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: Jim Robinson

Wow.


16 posted on 07/18/2009 11:43:48 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Half of the govt actively desires more socialism, whether or not they can lucidly express that thought in English.

A quarter don’t give a damn, and haven’t given it more than a passing thought.

A quarter care about the founding vision of the USA, the Constitution, etc.

If a million of that last group actually marched on Washington, the MSM and the liberal elite would paint them as insane racist yahoos. A million crazy Sarah Palins.

That’s what we’re up against. I’m not optimistic.


17 posted on 07/18/2009 11:44:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Jim Robinson

18 posted on 07/18/2009 11:45:09 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: All

I’ll sign it righ tnow. Jim you need to get this to every conservative talk show host and beg them ,if need be , to help us organize and pull this off. Bless you Jim for having th eballs to say what others are thinking.


19 posted on 07/18/2009 11:45:21 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: sonic109
lol. They will be blocking the Senate and House entrances I am sure
20 posted on 07/18/2009 11:45:44 AM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, do you mean this
to be drafted into a
Republican plan,

or a general
statement, manifesto, for
all conservatives?

21 posted on 07/18/2009 11:45:46 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Travis McGee
Correction: Half of the POPULATION actively desires more socialism, whether or not they can lucidly express that thought in English.
22 posted on 07/18/2009 11:45:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Jim Robinson

The parallels with 1775 are fairly exact (also parallels with Germany in the 30’s as well).


23 posted on 07/18/2009 11:46:22 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Jim Robinson
What would I do? Pave a road with tar and feathers.

I wont say what I'd fill the potholes with.

25 posted on 07/18/2009 11:46:49 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: sonic109

E-Balls?


26 posted on 07/18/2009 11:47:00 AM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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To: Travis McGee
"A quarter don’t give a damn..."

I'll bet that number is much higher. Those types give the oil to the squeaky wheel.

27 posted on 07/18/2009 11:47:47 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bookmarked!


28 posted on 07/18/2009 11:48:43 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: GeronL

It was THE BALLS but I’ve been looking for my damn reading glasses all morning,SORRY FOLKS!


29 posted on 07/18/2009 11:49:57 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: 1035rep

I LOVE that bumper sticker! Is that available for sale? :o)

30 posted on 07/18/2009 11:50:05 AM PDT by nutmeg (How's all that "Hope" and "Change" working out for you, Comrade?)
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To: Travis McGee

“Half of the POPULATION actively desires more socialism, whether or not they can lucidly express that thought in English.”

Half of the half that only speaks spanish doesn’t count since they aren’t citizens.


31 posted on 07/18/2009 11:50:23 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Jim Robinson
The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded.

I would love for this to happen, but I'm afraid the unemployment would quadruple since so many work for the government. Then we would have riots and chaos, never the less where do I sign.

32 posted on 07/18/2009 11:51:05 AM PDT by lula ( If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?)
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To: struggle

Ugh, that tar and feather scene from HBO’s “John Adams” still haunts me. Absolutely terrifying...


33 posted on 07/18/2009 11:51:08 AM PDT by nutmeg (How's all that "Hope" and "Change" working out for you, Comrade?)
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bump!


34 posted on 07/18/2009 11:51:40 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: theFIRMbss

It’s from we the people. Current officeholders and political party leaders are purposely excluded.


36 posted on 07/18/2009 11:52:30 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

Pick a date, and I’ll be there.


37 posted on 07/18/2009 11:52:45 AM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: GeronL

That’ll be a good idea. Get a million firearms owners of america going on the same weekend of september 11th.


38 posted on 07/18/2009 11:54:25 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Jim Robinson

39 posted on 07/18/2009 11:54:34 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: nutmeg

http://www.zazzle.com/anti_obama_bumper_sticker-128480785301486808


40 posted on 07/18/2009 11:55:18 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Jim Robinson

Very succintly written Mr. Robinson and so many others share this deeply felt, fiercely held belief system. One of the concerns that I’ve expressed, is getting us all in one place. With the insanity going on, what in your opinion, would prevent this monster from calling in armed troops/thugs and killing us, or at the very least, herding us into prisons where we would never see the light of day again?
This event is no secret and is on the minds of many. The brazeness of this current government is astonishing and they are ‘pro-death’ anyway.
Very interested to hear if you’ve addressed this issue in your writings/thoughts.


41 posted on 07/18/2009 11:55:24 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The Light at the end of the Tunnel, is the headlamp of an on-coming Train)
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To: lula

Unemployment will have to be dealt with at the state and local levels. Guess a whole shitpot load of ex government workers will be desperately seeking to learn a trade or learn how to establish lemonade or shoeshine stands.


42 posted on 07/18/2009 11:56:15 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

I really think it is going to take something like this.


43 posted on 07/18/2009 11:56:19 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (WWTHD - What Would The Hondurans Do?)
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To: Outlaw Woman

We get the military on our side.


44 posted on 07/18/2009 11:57:45 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

Houston, we have a problem.

“government’s long train of abuses and usurpations”

You have a certain amount of folks here who know what these are. You have other folks here, who agree, but can’t list them all. I fall into the latter group. It’s exhausting work.

But I think there’s a lot of soaring and borderline bellicose rhetoric.

While soaring rhetoric inspired when it came from the founding fathers, now, the general population is much less invested in caring about what DC does.

We have been numbed into apathy and ignorance.

I read in the BBC today that the US military actually did a study about tobacco use in the forces and was thinking about banning tobacco consumption in war zones, but had decided against it.

This one sort of shook me to my roots. What kind of government thinks it has a right to prohibit the use of a legal substance in its military? That’s just some crazy and scarily intrusive stuff!

And so, I see clearly on the horizon that our rights to our bodies will be trumped. We will be mandated to live as the government decides proper. Apparently, we’ll be allowed to be high on marijuana, though. That ought to dull the sharp revocation of our freedoms.

So, while I’m as concerned as you are, I think that FIRST we need to list in clear terms those things that the government has done which are in clear opposition to the constitution.

And following that, perhaps a court challenge is in order.

Right now, it seems that some people are fired up (but believe me when I say the general public is ignorant of a lot of this and mostly apathetic) but others cannot sense a clear and present danger to our constitution being presented by the current government and before it can be opposed, it must be articulated succinctly with bullet points and supporting documentation.


45 posted on 07/18/2009 11:58:25 AM PDT by Winstons Julia (doubleplusungood)
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We need General James Mattoon Scott.


46 posted on 07/18/2009 11:58:39 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Outlaw Woman

*succinctly* didn’t spell check...sorry.


47 posted on 07/18/2009 11:59:40 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The Light at the end of the Tunnel, is the headlamp of an on-coming Train)
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To: 1035rep

Whoa... good stuff on that site! Thanks.


48 posted on 07/18/2009 11:59:47 AM PDT by nutmeg (How's all that "Hope" and "Change" working out for you, Comrade?)
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To: Jim Robinson; xzins
If we could get 1,000,000 patriots to march on Washington, I would suggest that, in accordance with our second amendment rights, we all bring our "sporting equipment" with us.

These Tyrants need to know just how serious We, the People, are about protecting our LIBERTY!

FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!

49 posted on 07/18/2009 12:00:19 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Jim Robinson

I would go and take my family.
My first demo was a tea party but with all this going on I am ready to go to DC.
Hopefully joined by gun right groups
civil rights groups
abortion groups
tax groups
etc
etc
etc

The media could never ignore all of us marching on there and blocking the place.
Obviously it would have to be weekends seeing as us on the right more or less work and are not paid thugs and demo organisers.


50 posted on 07/18/2009 12:00:40 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman , nothing else-- end racism end affirmative action)
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