Posted on 07/20/2009 9:23:05 AM PDT by jerod
He lived his life exactly how he wanted - it’s just that sometimes the consequences suck.
To quote Danny Devito’s character in the movie “Renaissance Man”....
“The choices you make dictate the life you lead.”
Or don’t...depending on your level of stupid.
Exactly.
There are only so many livers, unless you had a family member or friend willing to donate part of theirs to you, you wouldn’t get any liver in the US here if this was your case.
There are similar restrictions here in the US regarding liver transplant eligibility when the recipient has a history of drug use. They may get on the list, but they will be so far down behind other recipient candidates that they might as well not bother.
Alcohol and tylenol would do it.
So you’re saying Mickey Mantle wasn’t a lush?
He died due to severe alcoholism. He had more than enough stiff ones ( as you so blythely call them)to land him in the hospital. I will put money on this not being his first hospitalization. He surely has suffered with pancreatitis and alcoholic gastritous at a minimum. Alcoholism kills people. It is not something to be so friggin flip about
Or any where else. This man would NOT have gotten a liver transplant in the states either.
Nope. If you abuse alcohol or drugs, don’t expect to have a long life. If you do, expect to end up in jail ( for running people down) or in the hospital because your organs can not stand to be poisoned.
I recall when Mickey Mantel received a liver transplant.
I recall that there was a fair amount of outrage that Mantel received a liver transplant -- given what was perceived to be his drinking habits.
There are only so many livers that become available for transplanting.
The concern at the time Martle received a liver transplant, as best I recall them were:
1. Mantel's liver was in bad shape because of his own lifestyle (excessive drinking)
2. Mantle was rich and well-known.
3. Other people, less rich and less well-known that Mantle, did not receive liver transplants (and likely died because they could not receive a liver).
4. Among the less well-known and less rich people, there were people who had not engaged in excessive drinking or other life-style choices that had contributed to liver disease.
In China, they’d remove his liver and give it to someone else.
And you have NO friggin idea of what you are talking about. Take a look someday at the numbers of young alcoholics who end up being treated for pancreatitis and liver disease. It happens all too often
I seriously wonder if this guy would get a liver in the US, anyway.
My wife’s a nurse, and I helped her reseach her final paper on the US organ donor and procurement “system”.
He sounds like an extremely low priority candidate, if he’d even be allowed on the list.
Then again, Mickey Mantle got a new liver.
Ya never know.
Some posters need to write an abstract summarizing what they think is important (morale) in their post because I still miss this one.
I had said for years that the day Ted Kennedy admitted himself into DC General for his health care would be the day I supported socialized medicine. Needless to say, that day never came.
“If I knew I was going to live this long I’d have taken better care of myself.” - 61
So he drank himself to death and he wasn’t bumped up ahead of other folks on the liver-transplant waiting list. Sounds about right to me. Really bad example to use to attempt to make a case against socialized medicine.
This is a sleazy article. If you live in GB or Canada, you can be denied life saving medical care without being an alcoholic. For instance....8 month wait in Toronto for heart bypass. My dad would have died.
The US currently has similar criteria.
I had a good friend who was alcoholic, but damaged his liver due to another condition, hemachromatosis.
He had to meet strict alcohol criteria but eventually got his transplant. Our system was actually worse than the UK one in that his insurance company was fighting against him, hoping he would die before they would have to pay for the operation.
In other words, the British government killed him. Too bad he was only 22, and hadn’t lived much.
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