Posted on 07/20/2009 7:40:35 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta
flurry of articles on news sites. Google News - Obama Constitutionally Eligible?
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Now ay talking ..im in ..Let me know ..I’m serious ..We have to employ the same tactics the left used successfully against them. Civil disorder is called for .
Along with everyone else who enabled it. . .
Whether he was born a citizen or not still doesn’t address the problem of whether he still is a citizen. His citizenship was denounced in Indonesia to get Indonesian citizenship.
389 hits, most of them from World Net Daily or The Examiner...I wouldn't exactly call that a flurry.
A law passed by Congress cannot change the Constitution, nor the meaning of any of it's terms. They must mean now what they meant when written. It would be up to a Court, probably the Supreme Court in the final analysis, to determine what that meaning was and is. Title 8, section 1401 and 1405 were passed under Congress power to define a uniform rule of Naturalization. Thus anyone who is a citizen, at birth or later, only because of those sections, or any other Congressional laws, must logically be a naturalized citizen. Congress has no power to create or define any other sort.
The Consular Report of Birth Abroad, FS-240, is the name of the document you are looking for. Application for one must include the following:
1) an official record of the child’s foreign birth;
(2) evidence of the parent(s)’ U.S. citizenship (e.g., a certified birth certificate, current U.S. passport, or Certificate of Naturalization or Citizenship);
(3) evidence of the parents’ marriage, if applicable; and
(4) affidavits of parent(s)’ residence and physical presence in the United States.
Speak for yourself young grasshopper. I filled out my own application. We were allowed, even required, to that, "back in the day", sometime in the early Dark Ages IIRC. :)
I haven't heard that but I do know that historians now say there was no doubt Arthur was born in the US. Arthur was accused of being born in Canada and Ireland, but for some reason the issue his father's citizenship was not brought up as a disqualifying factor at the time. Of course Arthur was elected as Vice President and became president upon the assassination of Garfield.
It should not figure at all. It was not publicly known that Arthur's father was not a citizen at the time of his birth, or until long after his passing for that matter. Just because someone else violated the Constitution and got away with it, without the issue making it to any court, let alone the Supreme court, is no legal precedent at all. One way or the other.
Interesting that once his poll numbers started to drop the gates of the dam are opening up.
Actually, if his parents were married, and what evidence exists suggests that they were, and he was born outside the US, he was not even a citizen at birth. He could have been naturalized later, but that would make him just an ineligible as being an illegal alien.
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THE ADMINISTRATION - President Barack Obama
WhiteHouse.gov is the official web site for the White House and President Barack Obama, the 44th President of the United States.
www.whitehouse.gov/administration/President_Obama/ - Cached - Simila
Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.
-- http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html
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Not in the United States. The State Department site is perfectly clear on that point.
If you as his parents, legally change his citizenship to a different country, he will legally be a citizen of your new country. What, you think he gets to stay American?
Yes.
You think he gets to live under American laws while he lives in that country too?
No. Neither do you. Neither do I.
However, Indonesia, at the time Barack was adopted, did NOT recognize dual citizenship, so through the adoption process his US citizenship was dropped.
US citizenship status is not determined by Indonesian law. I do not see why this is a difficult notion to grasp.
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you got to be kidding me...393?
Arthur's citizenship wasn't litigated, so there's no precedent.
Then he won’t be the first black pres. anymore. He’ll become the first half-white one.
Wait, he’ll become another disgraced white president.
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