Dobbs embraces Birthers

Politico ^ | 7/21/09 | Ben Smith

[Star Traveler]

You haven’t seen me supporting Obama... LOL...

[o2bfree]

So anybody who questions Obama openly is a “Birther”.

Where there’s smoke there’s fire. Rules for Radicals in action.

[Tribune7]

As far as I can see Biden would have legally been elected vice president regardless of Obama’s eligibility

[Jersey Republican Biker Chick]

"ARMY CANCELLED DEPLOYMENT ORDERS! Obama is a fraud."

Someone in the Pentagon knows something to have these orders pulled....

[stuartcr]

Why would the whole election be ineligible?

He would be the president, until things got straightened out, which, realistically, would probably take us to the next election.

Why would the losers and the ex-pres, be put into power? Besides, do you think congress would let that happen?

[Pearls Before Swine]

The author says “(He long ago released an official copy, the standard document. As often noted, it actually does go away quite easily.) “

Oh... Puhleeze. We are past being fooled with a COLB, even a real one, which the low-res Internet scan posted may not have been.

[bytesmith]

Great post. Sums it all up.

[Publius6961]

Read the comments on the source site.
The race card is almost the only response to honest doubt or simple intellectual curiosity.

[stuartcr]

Can you imagine how long it would take for a re-vote to happen?

[Jersey Republican Biker Chick]

If Obama is not a citizen, he was ineligible to run. The election was therefore a fraud and should be thrown out.

[stuartcr]

???

[Tribune7]

3.5 years

[ChrisInAR]

I call myself a “Birther”, & proudly so...but I say let’s keep our minds open & listen to what the facts are re: both “Birthers” AND “Truthers”. We need to be willing to listen to the evidence before we make up our minds on any controversy.

[Oldexpat]

Some of the Guard people being deployed are really volunteers. They volunteer to be in the unit deployed.
Sounds strange but true. It may be that the Army just decided that he was a problem and not needed. Kinda like John Kerry.

[stuartcr]

And who do you think would be in charge until things got straightened out?

[stuartcr]

Yep

[balls]

The Lou Dobbs recording the author references is from 6/15 and getting a bit stale. Has Dobbs said anything about it since or has he been muzzled by CNN?

[Star Traveler]

And also now is the time to mention (at least in this thread, anyway...), that the *one news outlet* that has been trumpeting the Birth Certificate Issue of Obama’s — more than anyone else — is WorldNetDaily.

They have even paid for billboards around the United States asking “Where is the Birth Certificate?”

I’m not talking about blogs and private websites, but actual *news websites* — and WorldNetDaily is the only one to be featuring this day after day and week after week.

No one else does this. So, if you are concerned about the birth certificate issue, then support WorldNetDaily by going over there and giving hits to their website as they’ve been all over this issue...

WorldNetDaily
http://www.wnd.com/

[ckilmer]

Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.



Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982

from obama's own site factcheck.org(this is cached as the original was taken down) by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”(Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually. Ah here is the cached version.) Here is a better cached versionHere's a thi rd Kindly cache these too.

Here is the problem with fighthesmears narrative: We already have recorded that Obama's wife michellle said Obama's mother was "very young and very single" when obama was born. British law at the time of obama's birth only gave citizenship from the father to the son in the case that the father is married to the mother:ie the son is legitimate. See wikipe dia 2.4.3Since obama's parents were NOT married -- how did obama get his British/Kenyancitizenship? Its not unreasonable to think that he got his British/Kenyan because he was born there--and not because of his parentage. As to the famous newsclipping in Hawaii that states that bama was born there in 1961--there is evidence to suggest that the house named as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by someone else besides his parents. Once again, Just one piece of evidence could easily be dismissed. It is the accumulation of evidence that is troubling.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser, Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?

A last arguement for baraks people might be that of course the Kenyans would have an interest in claiming that obama was a "son of the soil" both as a matter of pride and as a matter of bucks coming their way. However, if Obama was not born in Kenya -- then why wouldn't Obama release his original long form birth certificate. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. On top of that according to the LA Times since the election -- the Kenyans feel that Obama has gone out of his way to snub/ignore/distance-himself them. The Kenyans are putting up reasons like perhaps they are insufficiently perfected for him to notice them--but here in the USA we have seen Obama throw a number of embarrasing people from his past under the bus. Obama is going to Africa. Will he visit Kenya? Nope. Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?

The thing has become a joke in washington. Joe Biden Joked at the Gridiron Dinner in March 09.

After mentioning one of the Republican speakers for the evening, Arnold Schwarzenegger, was born in Austria and that one of the Democratic speakers, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, was born in Canada, Biden chortled: "Folks, this is going to be Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. "

From there, Biden transitioned to the birth certificate controversy.

Les Kinsolving asked the Presidential Press Secretary Gibbs to release the long form birth certificate. The press secretary suggested mockingly that the copy of the short form birth certificate supplied online is Obama's long form birth certificate. Not so.(However, as of july 2009--eight months after the election-- Hawaii changed their rules so as to make the short form legal.There is even evidence to suggest the online "certification of live birth"--ie not a birth certificate--obama presented... was a forgery. See the press conference out take here.

The White House 'dialogue' site has to be scrubbed regularly because of long form birth certificate eligibility posts.

Rush Limbaugh joked several times on his radio show on 6/10/09: "What do God and Obama have in commen? (Answer) Neither have birth certificates."

Even the liberal LA Times on June 30, 2009 in an article dripping with contempt--conceded that the thing Obama's people posted online was "technically... not a birth certificate".

A bill in the US congress with five backers currently -- calls for future presidential candidates to be required to show a birth certificate. The library of congress has recently started including the Obama File in its historic collections of Internet materials related to the Presidential Transition during a Time of Crises. The Obama File holds that Obama's birth certificate as presented online is bogus.