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New burst of attention for old doubts about Obama (AP "Birther" barf)
Associated Press ^ | July 23, 2009 | DAVID CRARY

Posted on 7/23/2009, 10:09:48 PM by Free ThinkerNY

NEW YORK (AP) - Six months after Barack Obama's inauguration, a persistent and noisy legion of doubters won't let go of an already debunked claim—that he is actually a foreign-born, illegal president.

The issue has flared again on political blogs, TV news shows and even a town hall meeting, widely circulated on YouTube, in which a Republican congressman was booed for saying Obama is a citizen.

Mainstream Republicans who want the issue to go away are having a tough time stamping it out as the so-called "birthers" resurface, with assists from talk show host Rush Limbaugh and CNN's Lou Dobbs.

Some who had initially dismissed the claim as a laughable political sideshow now wonder whether it's gotten out of control.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; usurper
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1 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:09:48 PM by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
now wonder whether it's gotten out of control.

Well let's hope so.
3 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:12:17 PM by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Here’s “BIRTH CERTIFICATE CENTRAL” for y’all...

Here’s a news outlet for you — all you readers... this is “Birth Certificate Central”... at WorldNetDaily...

No..., I really like WorldNetDaily. This is not any kind of derogatory remark about them. They are an excellent news site on the web. I’ve followed them for years. They have a Christian worldview outlook and I would recommend them to all readers, regardless of the birth certificate issue that they go after all the time.

As I’ve posted elsewhere... below...

Every time I see the birth certificate issue, I’ve got to pump up WorldNetDaily, since they are on this issue *all the time*...

If you want to go to a legitimate news source that has been on the Obama birth certificate issue for a long time now and does so *consistently* — go to WorldNetDaily...

WorldNetDaily
http://www.wnd.com/

They even pay to have billboards put up around the United States asking “Where is the Birth Certificate?”... I don’t know of any other news source anywhere that has paid to put up these kinds of billboards all over the country.

If you’re interested in the Obama Birth Certificate issue, you’ll find a lot of older articles from them on it, and they always have new articles coming up all the time. They are always hammering away at this issue and it’s a new source that is well worth supporting by going and clicking on their links.

Keep up on the birth certificate issue on WorldNetDaily...

[... I love WorldNetDaily, as they’re a fine news website... :-) ...]


4 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:12:56 PM by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is cool. We’re making Alinsky work for us. I don’t care about the BC, but I do care that the public see that O is not transparent, and believes himself above the necessity of providing the kind of documentation that every other American has to provide just to get a passport or driver’s license!


5 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:13:35 PM by Mamzelle (No cure for the common scold)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
an already debunked claim

LIAR!!!

Wheres the BC?

6 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:13:50 PM by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Then I can ondy deduce that Obama hates sick children.

I submitted a request to the White House for the name of the Doctor that brought Obama into the world. That tiny tidbit of information would be found on the long for version of his Birth Certificate the reason for my request was historical in nature for I wanted to Make a large Charitable donation to the Childrens ward of the Kapiolani Medical Center (the supposed hospital he was born at) in the name of the Doctor that brought Obama into the world.

My request was unanswered so I guess that Obama hates sick children.


7 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:13:50 PM by Typical_Whitey (Obama intends to bankrupt the USA and force the CHANGE to Socialism.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

My firend;s KID CAN”T play Football WITHOUT his ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE....ORIGINAL! FOOTBALL!!!!!


8 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:13:56 PM by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The article said — The issue has flared again on political blogs, TV news shows and even a town hall meeting, widely circulated on YouTube, in which a Republican congressman was booed for saying Obama is a citizen.

I have said elsewhere that I’m detecting a “change in strategy” and that the leftists are actually co-opting this issue for themselves and finding it useful to derail conservatives. I’ve noticed this just recently.

This is what I said in another post...


Yes, it does appear to be a change in strategy and I noted that it was a “change” elsewhere. It seems to be a “developing strategy” actually. You know how some things work... you gradually come upon them or you stumble upon them. I think it may be that way with this, more recently.

I wrote the following elsewhere..., in a thread in which an article was trying to “tag” someone with this label of being a birther, while they were actually trying to distance themselves from it. It was like the article was “using” the birther designation to sidetrack the real issues that were being spoken about, by this conservative.

So, the comment I said elsewhere...

The leftists don’t want the issue to go away. It’s too useful to them. I posted the following in another thread about what someone said is “panic” setting in. What I see, instead, is a “strategy” developing by the leftists...

Well, here’s how it would work..., if you’re a conservative and you have ever said anything about the birth certificate issue, those leftists are going to know about it. And then, let’s say you’re giving some reasoned points on some legislation being pushed by Obama...

If it starts sounding too good or they can’t counter it — then it’s time to shift over to the “Obama birth certificate issue” — and the leftists will be the ones who raise it.

Then they try to paint that person *as* one of those who believes that Obama is not qualified to be President, because he has not shown a proper birth certificate.

At that point, they’ve just gotten you off your points in regards to Obama’s legislation that you’re trying to get out to the public and over into whether you think that Obama is qualified to be President or not.

The public sees and hears this, they forget all about the points you were making on the legislation that Obama is pushing and now the public thinks the whole issue was about whether Obama is qualified to be President or not.

The leftists love to get the conservatives over into that topic, because it means that this particular conservative can’t talk about the legislation that he originally wanted to talk about.

That’s how it works...

And that’s why the leftists are loving the Obama Birth Certificate Issue as a good issue for them to beat on and divert any conversation away from something else.

I think the birther issue is going to be useful to them...


As I said, this appears to be a “developing” strategy right now... (i.e, just recently)


9 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:15:15 PM by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Notice how every question about Soetoro is met with a page from Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals." Isolate, marginalize, and ridicule. So anyone who questions the discredited COLB is now a "birther."

"Birther soon to be equated with "kook."

10 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:15:37 PM by Wardenclyffe
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To: Just A Nobody

That’s picture looks like the billboards that WorldNetDaily has put up around the United States. They’re the only news sites that has been paying for billboards that say “Where’s the Birth Certificate?”... :-)


11 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:17:30 PM by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Kenyan Imposter will not prevail.


12 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:17:39 PM by y6162 (uish..)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The only reason “Birthers” resurface is that no one owns a copy of his long form Birth Certificate.
I had to show mine to get my last 2 Jobs. Lemme see yours, BHOle


13 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:22:24 PM by 4Speed
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To: Typical_Whitey

I’ll be 63 on Monday and I know the name of the Dr. who delivered me, in Brooklyn, in 1946!


14 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:23:51 PM by surrey
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Scenario 1:
Born in the USA (HI, WA, TX or whatever)

Mother is 18 -- Legal age in the US in 1961 was 21 y/o
In 1961 Hawaiian law stated must have lived in HI for 5 years after the age of 16 (or 14 or 15 - I‘ve seen all)
Thus, unable to pass on citizenship if she is the only American citizen parent

Father is a foreigner -- BO Sr. who was a Kenyan under British subjection
Senior is a British citizen
Citizenship is passed by the father in this case, which "Obama" admits to

Mom and Dad may, or may not have been married, but it is irrelevant as Dad was already married so the “marriage” would not be legal in the USA

US Code: Title 8, Chapter12, Subchapter III, Part I, Section 1405: Persons born in HI

Conclusion:
No way is he a “natural born citizen” of the USA as that requires BOTH parents to be US citizens. He may or may not be a “native born citizen”
It also questions his US citizenship, but not according to Beckwith

15 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:24:25 PM by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Star Traveler

I know ... and I helped! ;*)


16 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:25:04 PM by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody

Oh... that’s good, I’m glad to hear that...


17 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:29:55 PM by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Just A Nobody
Scenario 2:
Born in Kenya (or Canada or any foreign nation)

Mother is 18 -- Legal age in the US in 1961 was 21 y/o
In 1961 Hawaiian law stated must have lived in HI for 5 years after the age of 16 (or 14 or 15 - I‘ve seen all these ages)
Thus, unable to pass on citizenship if she is the only American citizen parent

Father is a Kenyan National -- see Scenario 1

Conclusion:
There is NO WAY he is a “natural born citizen” and may not even be a citizen unless he was naturalized at some point.
There are no records to indicate he ever was.

The Obama File Chart showing the classifications with sources



18 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:29:58 PM by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: surrey

You said — I’ll be 63 on Monday and I know the name of the Dr. who delivered me, in Brooklyn, in 1946!

Well, I’m not too far behind in age, and I don’t know the hospital name, the doctor’s name, the nurse’s name, what floor, what street it was on, how long I was there, or anything like that.

The only reason why I know who my mother and father is, is because they told me... LOL...

Actually, I do have a birth certificate but I haven’t looked at it in ages... :-)


19 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:33:48 PM by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Just A Nobody
Scenario 3:
Born somewhere in the USA

Mother is an 18 y/o US citizen

Father is US citizen 18 or older -- Frank Marshall Davis, Malcom X or whoever

Conclusion:
The baby would definitely be a “natural born citizen”
However, his name would not be Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.
Therefore, while eligible to be POTUS, he is none the less a FRAUD, unless he legally changed his name to Barack Hussein Obama and there is no evidence to support said name change.



20 posted on 7/23/2009, 10:33:48 PM by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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