Posted on 07/24/2009 1:09:57 PM PDT by KansasGirl
House healthcare negotiations dissolved in acrimony on Friday, with Blue Dog Democrats saying they were lied to by their Democratic leaders.
The seven Blue Dogs on the Energy and Commerce Committee stormed out of a Friday meeting with their committee chairman, Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), saying Waxman had been negotiating in bad faith over a number of provisions Blue Dogs demanded be changed in the stalled healthcare bill.
Ive been lied to, Blue Dog Coalition Co-Chairman Charlie Melancon (D-La.) said on Friday. We have not had legitimate negotiations.
Mr. Waxman has decided to sever discussions with the Blue Dogs who are trying to make this bill work for America, Melancon said...
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"Waxman simply does not have votes in committee and process should not be bypassed to bring the bill straight to floor, Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.), the lead Blue Dog negotiator, said on Friday. We are trying to save this bill and trying to save this party.
Melancon said there would be 40-45 solid no votes from the 52-strong Blue Dogs, among other problems throughout the caucus.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
BTTT
Are these the 7 Blue Dogs?
Ross, Gordon, Matheson, Harman, Barrow, Murphy & Space?
One can only hope, but I expect most of the Blue Dog Democrats will roll over and play dead when Dog Whisperer Pelosi cracks the whip,
Good. The more anger the better on this one.
There will be time for calm relaxation AFTER Obamacare is dead and gone.
Ive been lied to, ...
Liars calling liars ‘liars.’ It’s a start.
They have to have ten positive stories telling constituents they are representing them before they cave and roll over.
MORE POPCORN!....
The “D” — so far as liberal democrats are concerned, stands for Dictator.
Found it:
“One of the goals of having the seven Blue Dog members band together is to guard against leadership picking centrists off one by one with side deals, as they feel was done during the energy vote.
The group includes all the Blue Dogs on the committee except for Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.). They are Reps. John Barrow (D-Ga.), Bart Gordon (D-Tenn.), Baron Hill (D-Ind.), Jim Matheson (D-Utah), Charlie Melancon (D-La.), Ross, and Zack Space (D-Ohio). “
Waxman is a liar? Who knew?
They're just now figuring out their leadership is a bunch of LIARS?!??
Bart Gordon (TN 6th), (202) 225-4231
Jane Harman (CA 36th), (202) 225-8220
Mike Ross (AR 4th), (202) 225-3772
Jim Matheson (UT 2nd), (202) 225-3011
Charlie Melancon (LA 3rd), (202) 225-4031
John Barrow (GA 12th), (202) 225-2823
Baron Hill (IN 9th), (202) 225-5315
Zach Space (OH 18th), (202) 225-6265
Gee, he doesn’t look like a liar?
255 - 178 is the current balance of power. 40 no votes from blue dogs = 215 - 218, IF republicans stick together, which is no guarantee, since there are rinos loose in the land.
Not only more popcorn, but I think this calls for boxes of Junior Mints and Bon-Bons, as well.
"Sometimes I feel, sometimes I feel,
Like I been tied to the whipping post
Tied to the whipping post,
Tied to the whipping post,
Good lord, I feel like Im dyin."
the lead Blue Dog negotiator, said on Friday. We are trying to save this bill and trying to save this party.
Save the party? Damn, it’s worse than we think. It’s worse than we imagined. It’s a beautiful thing! LOL
I am sure they know, but they aren’t going to say unless they have been told directly to say....
That is the real problem here. If the vote is close enough, the Democrats will bribe a couple of Republicans and the bill will pass.
Thanks for the update. This is great news.
“We were lied to!” No kidding really? Well I am shocked I tell you shocked.
Keep it up Nancy and Henry pretty soon the blue dogs will remember where their true loyalties lie —— with the conservatives. Bwahahahahahaha
I also just got off the phone with my rep. I said, I know that Representative Murphy doesn't care what his constituents think but this is too important to rubber stamp the way he's done every other bill to come before him. I then told the story of the woman from England who flew here for a mammogram because her screening ultrasound didn't qualify her for one in England. Her mom and sister both had breast cancer and she had a lump.
I wonder how these congress people will feel when it's their daughter or granddaughter who is denied a test like this until it is too late.
I just called Dennis Moore, our only Rat Congressman from KS (member of Blue Dogs), and she said he is not decided yet. He always votes with Pelosi though. He said the same thing about cap and trade and then voted with the Rats.
Dennis Moore’s office: (202) 225-2865
Her seat won't be filled until November.
All would be at risk in the 2010 election cycle. I am telling ya it wouldn’t be the first time fiscally conservative dems have kicked the powers in the nuts
And well they should.
Here is a link to the full House Democrat Health Care Plan in PDF. In Section 1233 E & F, pages 426-433, you find the part about mandatory end-of-life counseling for anyone over 65 years of age.
HOUSE DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN - http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm
Also, here's a large image of the Democratic (Obama) Health Plan chart-another Obama empty promise. This is the one the House democrats are censuring. Email these links or the image to everyone you know.

Obama and all those pushing his radical agenda are abject marxist ideologues. Their "fundamental; change" is nothing more than a destruction of the American free market and fundamental republican principle.
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Jane Harman??
Pay back is a bitch, eh Nancy?
Hey, I'll help.
Bwhahahaha!!! I almost said it with a straight face.
Good going!
I wonder how these congress people will feel when it’s their daughter or granddaughter who is denied a test like this until it is too late.
I hope you’re not that naive. The ruling class will not be covered by this bill. They will retain separate and far superior coverage. Rush has been covering this for days.
I didn’t call any of the committee members, but I called all the PA Blue Dogs today. All the staffers were very polite and receptive to my call, which was a pleasant change from my calls to Senator Casey’s offices.
Good sign for the Dems to have a total meltdown going into the weekend. Gives us a couple of days to rest up, live well, and prepare ourselves to continue the fight. ObamaCare won’t be going away, but every delay exposes more of the horrors of government-run healthcare to the public and weakens the ultimate chances of passage.
Some of the dems are “newly” elected. They beat repubs on fiscally conservative platforms

I love the smell of democrats failing.
DNC leadership to the common rabble, “sit down and shut up” (a phrase that goes back to the Clinton error)
Most definitely
(Usual montage of Dennis Moore riding plus song.) Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore Riding through the land Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore Without a merry band He steals from the poor. And gives to the rich Stupid bitch. (Dennis Moore reins to sudden halt and looks over to camera.) Dennis Moore: What did you sing? Singers: (speaking) We sang... he steals from the poor and gives to the rich. Dennis Moore: Wait a tic... blimey, this redistribution of wealth is trickier than I though
Jim Matheson is my rep. You might figure the only congress critter that's a democrat from the most conservative state in the republic might be a tad more conservative than the rest of the rat pack in DC, and he is.
Ping!
You got it.
They’ll end up with 5-10% of what they “demand” then they’ll fall in line.
These guys are very dependent on bringing pork back to their districts. Pelousy will chop their pork as she chops their nuts.
Oh yeah. And Jane has a long long memory
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