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This is a frightening piece of legislation. If this passes the U.S. officially enters into an "Orwellian" state.

If I voiced my feelings on this, I'd get banned from this site. So I'll just say continue to call, e-mail, contact your Reps, and Senators constantly and tell them to vote against this bill.

1 posted on 07/24/2009 3:12:24 PM PDT by CMS
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Thank you for assembling this.

What if I don’t want a National Health ID card?


2 posted on 07/24/2009 3:16:52 PM PDT by oblomov (Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods. - Mencken)
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Good Lord. This is unbelievable.


4 posted on 07/24/2009 3:18:34 PM PDT by squarebarb
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Do you have a source and link for this?


5 posted on 07/24/2009 3:18:54 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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And this is why Obama, Pelosi, Waxman, et al wanted to rush Obamacare through congress before anybody had a chance to read it.

Contact your congressman and your two senators today!


6 posted on 07/24/2009 3:19:12 PM PDT by Walrus (My congressman is toast in 2010 --- how about yours?)
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F U B O

10 posted on 07/24/2009 3:38:38 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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Looks like I’ll be paying for healthcare twice, like I paid for education twice.

Once for the government mandated and useless version (Public Schools, Obama DeathCare(TM)) and once in the Free Market for what works.

They can demand that I pay for their care. It’s a tax. They can’t stop me from spending my own money after that in a private transaction with an individual doctor.


11 posted on 07/24/2009 3:48:37 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (It's the spending, stupid!)
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Yet they refuse to let the GOP call it Government Healthcare?


12 posted on 07/24/2009 4:03:50 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (-0 retreats, Iraq explodes! NK fires missiles! Iran erupts! China erupts!)
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BM


13 posted on 07/24/2009 4:05:47 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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bfl


14 posted on 07/24/2009 4:07:59 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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It seems to me that a little death might be beneficial to the country. The start sould begin in Washington


18 posted on 07/24/2009 5:19:07 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The boy's war iin Dor tetriot has already cost more then the war in Iraq.)
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Interesting, the way they outlined. The summary post made are very MISLEADING to the sheep in this room. So don’t read the above as is. Each really means something else that they did not tell you. Believe me, I’m a nurse for 33 yrs and some of the stuff I read, I already know what it references, but the writer doesnt TELL you that. The way it is written sounds SCAREY, Please do NOT believe EVERYthing you read on here. Search out the Whole truth. It is obvious the writer was trying to scare the heck out of everybody with his choice of words posted.


21 posted on 07/28/2009 7:31:10 PM PDT by ncdonna
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A true nightmare, almost all of which would be completely unconstitutional (if we were still governed by the Constitution and Bill of Rights, which we are NOT.)


32 posted on 07/30/2009 10:10:17 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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BTTT for later use


33 posted on 07/30/2009 10:10:49 PM PDT by Go Gordon
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Please, what good is reading it if it is 1000 pages. Let's just rush it through and then see what happens. Who cares if it ruins lives or kills people. We need health care reform now!

Typical careless politicians.

37 posted on 07/31/2009 4:07:39 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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bump


39 posted on 07/31/2009 5:38:25 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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Here are my thoughts on this subject.

I actually was planning on posting a "Freeper's Observation" op-ed on this subject tomorrow. However CMS has done such a great job of adressing this issue that I thought I'd instead go ahead and augment the work that he/she has done so well on this subject.

This thread was linked to on some other websites in op-eds and some of the responses have been rather predictable. Both here and in those other threads. There are apparently some Obamabots who obviously are attemping to sell this snake oil who are trying to convince us that what CMS says is false and that what it is really isn't.

Let me just say that I have in fact read the various versions of this bill in their respective entirties and I can tell you that CMS is dead right on this. This peice of legislation is snake oil. Deadly, poisonous snake oil at that.

Earlier this week, My dad Chuck who will turn 87 in October received a brand new pacemaker, his third one. I can tell you that had this legislation been in effect, he would not had received it.

It's quite obvious that people are catching on to this piece of snake oil and are voicing opposition. What we are witnessing from the MSM who obiviously is in the pockets of the Obama Adminstration and the Reid-Pelosi crowd are Saul Alinsky style tatics. Tatics designed to try and smear the good names of people like myself and CMS who are simply trying to blow the whistle on this piece of poisonous and deadly snake oil.

I would just say to everyone before you go and take the words of these unsavory elements as gospel that you stop and think for a moment. This legislation clearly has Satan written over it. I can tell you that this is not something the man up above would condone much less tolerate. Do we really want Obama and the Democrats playing G*d with people's lives?

I would urge everyone to contact your Congressman about this snake oil and let him or her know how you feel about this piece of snake oil being shoved down our throats. Even if your congressperson is an (R), you still should contacct him or her to voice opposition. There are a number of very unsavory elements, Obamabots and others who embarce this Satan death culture who are going to try to convince our elected representatives that the vast majority of people support this snake oil when in reality, it's the other way around. We need to make every possible effort to outnumber these unsavory elements.

And, as to these clowns and goonies such as those at Politico and like Andrea Mitchell from PMSNBC, it's obvious they've have never had a real job in their lives and don't have any since of what real life is like. These news organizations need to be put out of business. They are not telling te whole story of what is going on in the world around us. If you really want to know what's going on in the world around you, you need to dump these clowns and goonies and start getting your news from sources like World Net Daily, Newsmax, Drudge Report and Free Republic.

The MSM has no interest whatsoever in reporting the news, their only interest is in turning America into another Zimbabwe.

Once again, Kudos to CMS for a job well done in doing his/her homework on this very subject. Whether anyone likes it being said or not this legislation is posionous, deadly snake oil and needs to be defeated.

Anyone voting for this is voting for murder and needs to have his or her butt run out of town. It's time for these clowns and goonies in Washington to get the message. It is they who work for us, not the other way around. It is we who are the bosses, not the other way around.

And, if they don't get it then they need to have their butts run out of town, period end of quote.

Regards......

54 posted on 08/01/2009 12:46:16 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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Thank you CMS.. I got this from Charisma. AJH


57 posted on 08/06/2009 7:06:24 PM PDT by americanmother (2nd Tim chapter 3)
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That’s not all my friends.
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2009/08/shock-inside-healthcare-bill-part-2.html

Pg 503 Lines 13-19 Govt will build registries and data networks from YOUR electronic med records.

PG 506 Lines 19-21 The Center will recommend policies that would allow for public access of data.

PG 518 Lines 21-25 The Commission will have input from HC consumer reps – Can u say unions & ACORN?

PG 621 Lines 20-25 Govt will define what Quality means in HC. Since when does Govt know about quality?

PG 624 “Quality” measures shall b designed to profile u including race, age, gender, place of residence, etc

Pg 630 9-24/631 1-9 Those Multi-stake holder groups incl. Unions & groups like ACORN deciding HC quality.

PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed “Qual Measures” 4 Physician Svcs & Dialysis Svcs.

Pg 635 to 653 Physicians Payments Sunshine Provision – Govt wants to shine sunlight on Docs but not Govt.

PG 660-671 Doctors in Residency – Govt will tell U where ur residency will b, thus where u’ll live.

Pg 676-686 Govt will regulate hospitals in EVERY aspect of residency programs, incl. teaching hospitals.

PG 711 Lines 8-14 The Secretary has broad powers to deny HC providers/suppliers admittance into HC Exchng.

Pg 719-720 Sec 1637 ANY Doctor who orders durable med equip or home med svcs MUST b enrolled in Medicare.

Pg 735 lines 16-25 For law enforce. purposes the Secretary-HHS will give Atty General access to ALL data.

Pg 757-762 Fed govt will shift burden of payments 2 Disproportionate Share Hospitals (DSH) 2 States. (Taxes)

Pg 768 Sec 1713 Govt – Nurse Home Visitation Svcs (Hello union paybacks)

Pg 769 3-5 Nurse Home Visit Svcs – “increasing birth intervals btwn pregnancies.” Govt Abortions any1?

Pg 770 SEC 1714 Fed Govt mandates eligibility 4 State Family Planning Svcs. Say abortion & State Sovereign.

Pg 789-797 Govt will set, mandate drug prices, controlling which drugs brought 2 mrkt. Bye innovation

PG 801 Sec 1751 The Govt will decide which Health care conditions will be paid. Say RATION!

Pg 810 SEC. 1759. Billing Agents, clearinghouses, etc req. 2 register. Govt takes over private payment sys.

PG 829-833 Govt will impose a fee on ALL private health ins. plans incl. self insured to pay for Trust Fund!

Pg 838-840 Govt will design & implem. Home Visitation Prog 4 families w young kids & families expect kids.

PG 844-845 OMG! This Home Visitation Prog. includes Govt coming in2 ur house & telling u how 2 parent

Pg 859 Govt will establish a Public Health Fund at a cost of $88,800,000,000. Yes thats Billion.

Pg 865 The Govt will MANDATE the establishment of a National Health Service Corps

PG 865 to 876 The NHS Corps is a program where Drs. perform mandatory HC for 2yrs for part loan repayment

PG 876-892 The govt takes over the education of our Med students and Drs

PG 898 The Govt will establish a Public Health Workforce Corps. 2 ensure supply of public health prof.

PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of civilian employees of the U.S. as Secretary deems.

PG 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians

PG 901 The Public Health Workforce Corps WILL incl commissioned Regular & Reserve Officers. HC Draft? WTF!

PG 910 The Govt will develop, build & run Public Health Training Centers.

PG 913-914 Govt starts a HC affirmative action program thru guise of diversity scholarships.

PG 915 SEC. 2251. Govt MANDATES Cultural & linguistic competency trng 4 HC professionals.

Pg 932 The Govt will estab Preventative & Wellness Trust fund- intial cost of $30,800,000,000-Billion

PG 936 Govt will develop “Healthy People & National Public Health Perform. Standards” Tell me what 2 eat?

PG 942 Lines 22-25 More Govt? Offices of Surg. Gen. -Public Health Svc, MinorityHealth, Women’s Health

PG 993 Govt will establish school based health clinics. Your kids wont have a chance.

PG 994 School Based Health Clinic will be integrated into the school environment. Say GOVT Brainwash!

PG 1001 The Govt will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will u be tracked?

PG 1003 9-11 National Med Dev Reg ‘‘(iii) other postmarket device surveillance activities” U WILL b tracked.


59 posted on 08/11/2009 3:58:28 PM PDT by Razgriz (Razgriz is a deamon in the government, when he rises democracy FALLS.)
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I don't think this statement is correctly defined as stated:

Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!

Pg 29 has a paragraph showing "annual limitations" - which I take to mean your out of pocket expenses will not exceed $5000 for an individual or $10,000 for a family

This doesn't seem to be the same as an admission that health care will be rationed..... now don't misunderstand me - I do think it will be rationed, but I do not think this page defines that at all.

Anyone else read it this way?

60 posted on 08/11/2009 8:14:50 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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Thanks for putting this together...and ruining another night’s sleep. Just kidding.

Nice work.


64 posted on 08/12/2009 10:14:01 PM PDT by AlaninSA
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