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To: Berlin_Freeper

a child born of an American citizen can claim natural citizenship...you just register them with the embassy and they need to live in the US for part of their childhood.

the constitution about “natural born” citizen was to keep rich immigrants from coming to the US and trying to take over...


29 posted on 07/26/2009 11:43:57 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To be a ‘natural born citizen’ a child must be born in the country of which the parents are citizens.

The term ‘natural born citizen’ was first codified in writing in colonial reference books in 1758, specifically in the legal reference book “Law of Nations.”

That legal reference book was used by John Jay, who later became the first Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. Jay requested the clause be inserted into the Constitution via a letter he wrote to George Washington, the leader of the Constitutional Convention.

Jay, considered the outstanding legal scholar of his time, was responsible for inserting that term into the U. S. Constitution, a term derived from the Law of Nations.

The Law of Nations was written by Emmerich de Vattel. He was a Swiss jurist who attained world preeminence in international law. This fame was primarily the result of his great foundational work — The Law of Nations — which he published in 1758. This monumental work applied a theory of natural law to international relations.

De Vattel’s Law of Nations was THE primary reference and defining book used by the framers of the U. S. Constitution. It is really not possible to overstate the influence of de Vattel’s Law of Nations as the primary reference book in the drafting of the U. S. Constitution.

The Law of Nations is almost beyond comparison in its value as a defining document regarding U. S. Constitution intent and interpretation. The Law of Nations, or the Principles of Natural Law, published in 1758, is the first, and ONLY, definitive work the Framers of the U. S. Constitution used for the inclusion of the “Natural Born Citizen” phrase. It nails what is meant by the “natural born citizen” phrase of Section 1, Article 2, of the U. S. Constitution.

To be a “natural born citizen” one’s parents must both be citizens (native born or naturalized, it doesn’t matter which) AND one must be born within the nation of one’s parents.

“…natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society can not exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as a matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. THE COUNTRY OF THE FATHERS IS THEREFORE THAT OF THE CHILDREN.”

Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, considered the father of the Fourteenth Amendment, confirms that understanding and the construction the framers used in regards to birthright and jurisdiction while speaking on civil rights of citizens in the House on March 9, 1866:

” ... I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents (plural, meaning two) not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen...”

Bingham is also quoted saying in the Spring of 1868 some serious warnings: “May God forbid that the future historian shall record of this day’s proceedings, that by reason of the failure of the legislative power of the people to triumph over the usurpations of an apostate President, the fabric of American empire fell and perished from the earth!...I ask you to consider that we stand this day pleading for the violated majesty of the law, by the graves of half a million of martyred hero-patriots who made death beautiful by the sacrifice of themselves for their country, the Constitution and the laws, and who, by their sublime example, have taught us all to obey the law; that none are above the law...”

As you can easily understand after reading this, neither Barack Obama nor John McCain were eligible to be President under Section 1, Article 2, of the U. S. Constitution (McCain was born in the city of Colon, Republic of Panama, and Obama’s father was a British subject). For your information, both men accepted large cash donations from George Soros, who is determined to destroy this nation. A first step to achieving that aim is to render the Constitution a useless rag.


65 posted on 07/27/2009 12:57:08 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: LadyDoc
>"the constitution about “natural born” citizen was to keep rich immigrants from coming to the US and trying to take over."

Like our industries, banking, and services.

Like Stinkerbell is doing right now!



Indonesian Go Home!

82 posted on 07/27/2009 1:49:51 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Ifanationexpects tobe ignorantandfree,inastateofcivilization,itexpects whatneverwas andnever will be)
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