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To: blueplum

How can anyone tell a virus is a “runaway mutant” one before it happens? This HN1 strain has already been described as a relatively mild strain whose contractors exhibit the normal fever, aches and pains which accompany other less well known strains, the HN1 strain has symptoms less severe.

As far as this virus being released whether deliberately or accidentally by “Big Pharm”, well you can don the tinfoil hat if you want but absent a shred of evidence to back this up, I believe I’ll pass.


8 posted on 07/27/2009 5:33:19 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: 101voodoo

*How can anyone tell a virus is a “runaway mutant” one before it happens?*

This particular virus is composed of four components normally not married together in nature. Patient Zero has been redesignated three times now. There are higher infection rates in Brunei, Canada, Australia and New Zealand than in Mexico where it supposedly originated. It’s developed species-jumping mutations (confirmed in Canada) and mutated defensive mechanisms (against Tamiflu). It’s spread to over 50 nations. Pretty fast progress for a “mild” virus supposedly 5 months old.

*This HN1 strain has already been described as a relatively mild strain whose contractors exhibit the normal fever, aches and pains*

I’m sure the pigs that contract the virus back from humans will be happy to hear that :) either way, it’s a death sentence for them at the moment.

*As far as this virus being released whether deliberately or accidentally by “Big Pharm”, well you can don the tinfoil hat if you want but absent a shred of evidence to back this up, I believe I’ll pass.*

LOL. Tin foil hats aside, oops viruses being released by Big Pharm has occurred - on more than one occasion (see cites below - especially the Toronto Sun article about Baxter’s bio-weapons facility).

I find your argument even scarier - that free governments worldwide conspired in smoky back rooms to stoop to the level of pretending to have a scare, maybe even down to inventing infection rates and projected death rates, in order to manipulate and control the behavior of populations and force them to accept healthcare or scary vaccines or freedom controls they otherwise wouldn’t accept.

Since the latter would inevidably result in worldwide chaos upon discovery of underhanded tactics such as you suggest, I’d rather believe we’ve got an ooops on our hands. Whether it was a lab-developed experimental virus, such as those Baxter ackowledges exist, or a natural freak occurance, or even whether it becomes a mutant zombie virus, well, we have to wait and see.

In the meantime all we can do is try to scrutinize the stories coming out (mainly out of England) for grains of truth, and increase our threat awareness accordingly.

Best Regards, Blueplum

A July 17th story in the TimesUK gives a worse-case scenario to expect 30% of the British population to become infected, with 65,000 deaths - an increase of around 20,000 deaths (around 80%) above the number of ‘regular’ flu-related deaths each year.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article6716477.ece

Ooops releases:

Bayer Knowingly Sold HIV-Contaminated Vaccines, Say Internal Documents
http://www.naturalnews.com/News_000647_Bayer_vaccines_HIV.html

Report: Contaminated vaccines found at Merck plant in PA
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/04/contaminated_childrens_vaccine.html

Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html

millions of Australians who were given a contaminated polio vaccine in the late 1950s and early 1960s
http://michellemalkin.com/2004/10/22/contaminated-vaccines/


11 posted on 07/27/2009 4:28:56 PM PDT by blueplum
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