[Star Traveler]

I’m following up on this comment...

“Many of us have contacted the Hawaiian office of Vital Statistics and DHHL ourselves (i.e., we do our OWN damn research) and knew the CNN story was false.”

Now..., I’ve been following the Lou Dobbs story since that particular segment came out. And from all the threads I’ve seen — I have not seen *one FReeper* report any phone call made to the State of Hawaii to contradict the report on the paper copy that Lou Dobbs reported was discarded.

I saw *no one here* ever report that they had contacted the State and specifically had contradicted that report.

NOW..., let me say that there were several who *speculated* (i.e., their own opinion) that it was not destroyed, but no one got *confirmation* from the State of Hawaii that I saw anywhere...

And one additional thing. There was one FReeper who said he was going to call the State today and get confirmation or denial. But I haven’t heard any report back on that one.

[BP2]

There's only a handful of people who work in the DHHL office. When I conversed with Rhonda Funn, DHHL Information and Community Relations Office, when the CNN story broke, she stated (and I quote): "Our requirements have not changed. We've always accepted both certificates as proof of birth. The only difference between the two is that the original Certificate of Live Birth contains more information."

No offense -- but DUH. They might also "accept" a ham sandwich, but that doesn't prove that your parents were of Hawaiian decent, nor your Hawaiian "blood quantum". Just like the DHHL had on their website from 2001 to June 2009 states: "Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL."

IF you submit a "Certification of Live Birth", the DHHL will NOT accept it on FACE VALUE to grant you land, especially if you have a non-Hawaiian name of Smith, Jones, or Obama.

The DHHL will ask for additional information. And if you DON'T have it, they will turn to the state of Hawaii's own archived records (especially "original birth certificates") to determine "blood quantum" -- just like it says here in the DHHL pamphlet: