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To: shortstop

It’s time for black men to get jobs, care for their families and STFU about the past. How’s that for a conversation starter?


4 posted on 07/28/2009 6:43:33 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: jessduntno

You raciss.


6 posted on 07/28/2009 6:44:24 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: jessduntno
It’s time for black men to get jobs, care for their families and STFU about the past. How’s that for a conversation starter?

And pull up yer damn pants. And get rid of the sideways cap. And those stupid hand gestures when you talk. Know whut I'm sayin?
10 posted on 07/28/2009 6:49:36 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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To: jessduntno

Its hard to discuss the race issue as a “race” issue as blacks and whites are individuals and as individuals have different perspectives and prejudices.

Not all Whites and not all Blacks are racists. There are still some white racists. There are black racists.

There are blacks like Clarence Thomas and Alan Keyes who are on “our” side politically - they are conservatives.

There are many whites like the collection of freaks around Obama who are not.

Having said that, there are a number of black racist hucksters like Shapeton and Jackson who have a vested interest in keeping the fires of racism stoked and generating racism where it would not normally, or should not normally exist in an issue.

Finally, there is a serious problem in the Black Community, which is spreading into the White Community, with respect to children, particularly male children, with no father figure in the family. Part of this has its roots in slavery, part of it has its genesis in liberal Democrat urban political machines of the 1950s and 1960s offering higher welfare benefits to southern blacks to draw them north for their votes, and in the white community the “Playboy Philosophy of the 1950s and later decdeswhcih presents sex some kind of indoor athetic event instead of a special intimate bond between a man and a woman.

Regardless, unfathered male children very often grow up to become asocial, violent, criminal individuals who gravitate towards gangs which offer the kind of strong parental surrogate figure missing in their lives.

Violent crime, drugs, welfare problems, veneral diseases, lack of work ethic, racism, and gun violence all have their roots in this phenomenon.

Liberal social policies are at the very root these issues.

Unless America comes to grip with these problems and stops making excuses for males who produce children and then abandon them, the problem will destroy us.


25 posted on 07/28/2009 7:14:16 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: jessduntno

Here, I have some more for your starter:

Starting [click] now, everyone plays by the same set of rules and gets the rewards and consequences of their choices within the same boundaries, regardless of skin color or ethnicity.

No more set asides, no more special rules, no more “affirmative action”, no more special loan programs, college programs, nor “black” organizations. All skin color of ethnicity based laws are hereby repealed.


30 posted on 07/28/2009 7:24:28 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: jessduntno

“It’s time for black men to get jobs, care for their families and STFU about the past. How’s that for a conversation starter?”

It’s time for all people of color to get over it. There was actually a time when I cared. I don’t now and have no guilt over it.


31 posted on 07/28/2009 7:25:18 AM PDT by shaft29 (Just your typical black woman.)
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To: jessduntno

Heck Yeah!

Time for talking is long past.

Time for action, ON THEIR PART! Stay in school, LEARN something, get & stay married, stop impregnating any available female, stop robbing others of their hard earned gains, STOP DOING/SELLING DRUGS!

Just shut up and do it! Earn the respect of others, don’t demand it.


32 posted on 07/28/2009 7:30:07 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: jessduntno

Yep, let’s talk about black men getting jobs.

In 1948, there was no difference in the unemployment rate for black men and white men. It’s true that black men were disporportionately in certain jobs, and were banned by the culture and discrimination of the time from certain jobs, BUT, the fact is, they were gainfully employed and more likely to be productive citizens than they are now.

In 1948, black illegitimacy was a fraction of what it is today. Black men, though discriminated against in the society, were MARRIED to the mothers of their children, and were active FATHERS in the lives of their children. So clearly those who talk about black illegitimacy as being a legacy of slavery are completely wrong.

I would love to talk about these types of points as conversation starters in a dialogue about race.

Any dialogue or “teachable moment” that comes from this Gates incident will COMPLETELY FAIL if it consists of politically correct lectures about the legacies of past discrimination.

Remember years ago, Bill Clinton had a presidential dialogue about race? He and members of his administration went around the country to “town hall” type meetings. But the results of those “conversations” were politically correct lectures to those in attendance about the sins of the past.


36 posted on 07/28/2009 8:22:22 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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