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Born in the U.S.A. ( National Review has "jumped the shark"...too! )
National Review ^ | July 28, 2009 | staff

Posted on 07/28/2009 11:59:49 AM PDT by kellynla

Pres. Barack Obama has a birthday coming up, a week from Tuesday. We hope he takes the day off—or even the whole week, the briefest of respites from his busy schedule of truncating our liberties while exhausting both the public coffers and our patience. The president’s birthday comes to mind because we recently spent some time looking at a photograph of his birth certificate, being held by Joe Miller of Factcheck.org, who took the time to examine it. President Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at 7:24 p.m, in Honolulu County, Hawaii, on the island of Oahu. The serial number on his birth certificate is 010641. Baby Barack’s birth was not heralded, as some of his partisans have suggested, by a star in the east, but it was heralded by the Honolulu Star, as well as the Honolulu Advertiser, each of which published birth announcements for young Mr. Obama.

Much foolishness has become attached to the question of President Obama’s place of birth, and a few misguided souls among the Right have indulged it. The myth that Barack Obama is ineligible to be president represents the hunt for a magic bullet that will make all the unpleasant complications of his election and presidency disappear. We are used to seeing conspiracy theories from the Left, for instance among the one in three Democrats who believe that 9/11 was an inside job conducted with the foreknowledge of the Bush administration. We’ve seen everything under the sun blamed on Dick Cheney and Halliburton, and Rosie O’Donnell has given us much mirth with her metallurgical expertise, while Andrew Sullivan has beclowned himself and tarnished the good name of The Atlantic with his investigation into the “real” parentage of Trig Palin. Most notable, the Iraq War summoned the craziness in a big way, and there are those who still shudder over their espressos at the mention of the Carlyle Group. And there is a fair amount of crossover between those fixated on Obama’s birth certificate and the 9/11 “truthers” — lawyer Phil Berg, for instance, is a player in both worlds. There is nothing that President Obama’s coterie would enjoy more than to see the responsible Right become a mirror image of the loopy Left circa 2003.

The birth-certificate business is not a uniquely conservative phenomenon; the allegation that Obama was born in Kenya seems to have originated with a Hillary Clinton supporter at a blog called The Blue State. Either way, this fantasy is not particularly widespread within the conservative movement, but it has attracted enough interest that it needs to be addressed.

The fundamental fiction is that Obama has refused to release his “real” birth certificate. This is untrue. The document that Obama has made available is the document that Hawaiian authorities issue when they are asked for a birth certificate. There is no secondary document cloaked in darkness, only the state records that are used to generate birth certificates when they are requested.

If one applies for a United States passport, the passport office will demand a birth certificate. It defines this as an official document bearing “your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records.” The Hawaiian birth certificate President Obama has produced—the document is formally known as a “certificate of live birth”—bears that information. It has been inspected by reporters, and several state officials have confirmed that the information in permanent state records is identical to that on the president’s birth certificate—which is precisely what one expects, of course, since the state records are used to generate those documents when they are requested. In other words, what President Obama has produced is the “real” birth certificate of myth and lore. The director of Hawaii’s health department and the registrar of records each has personally verified that the information on Obama’s birth certificate is identical to that in the state’s records, the so-called vault copy. Given that fact, we are loath even to engage the fanciful notion that President Obama was born elsewhere, contrary to the information on his birth certificate, but we note for the record that his mother was a native of Kansas, whose residents have been citizens of the United States for a very long time, and whose children are citizens of the United States as well.

The attention paid to President Obama’s place of birth is not unprecedented. In fact, it may be the only thing President Obama has in common with Pres. Chester Arthur, whose opponents whispered that he had been born in Canada. A number of unsuccessful presidential candidates—George Romney, Barry Goldwater, and Lowell Weicker among them—actually were born outside of the United States (in Mexico, the Arizona Territory, and Paris, respectively) to American parents and thereby into American citizenship. If the conspiracy theorists have evidence that President Obama went through the naturalization process, let them show it. But there is no such evidence, because this theory is based on unreality, as two minutes’ examining the claims of its proponents reveals. The hallmark of a conspiracy theory is that a lack of evidence for the theory is taken as yet more evidence for the theory. Indeed, the maddening thing about dealing with conspiracy hobbyists of this or any sort is the ever-shifting nature of their argument and their alleged evidence: Never mind the birth certificate, his step-grandmother said he was born in Kenya! (No, she didn’t.)

One of the unfortunate consequences of this red-herring discussion is that there are plenty of questions about Obama’s background and history that we would like to have answered. In spite of two books of memoirs, there remain murky areas in his biography. And when it comes to those college transcripts, count us among those who’d love to know whether Dr. Bailout ever took an advanced economics class and how he performed in it.

Barack Obama may prefer European-style socialized health care. He may consider himself a citizen of the Earth and sometimes address his audiences as “people of the world,” as though he were born not in another country but on another planet. Like Bruce Springsteen, he has a lot of bad political ideas; but he was born in the U.S.A.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; eligibility; justoyyyyyyyyyyyyyy; nro; obama; presidiot9
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I'll let other FReepers rebut this editorial of misinformation.

I'm tired of addressing erroneous claims.

1 posted on 07/28/2009 11:59:50 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Something smells foul and sinister.


2 posted on 07/28/2009 12:01:25 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: kellynla
Correction... it's now "Humped The Pig"
3 posted on 07/28/2009 12:01:48 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

“Something smells foul and sinister.”

Ah, been around an ACORN rally, have you?


4 posted on 07/28/2009 12:02:23 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: kellynla

National Review morphs into Little Green Footballs. I guess NR, LGF and Huffingston Poop are all owned by the Saudis now.

I saw it on Huff Po during the primaries when it was loaded with ENDLESS Islamic banner ads about oppressed Muslims and Islam.


5 posted on 07/28/2009 12:03:23 PM PDT by Frantzie (Obama DeathCare - Sending Seniors to the Death Camps. Obama = Racist Dope)
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To: kellynla

It’s not his birthday It’s someone elses. His Grandmother stole a SSN# for him.


6 posted on 07/28/2009 12:04:03 PM PDT by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messia. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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To: kellynla

Somewhere I read that his COLB has “African-American” on it but that term wasn’t in use when Obama was born .... just saying .....


7 posted on 07/28/2009 12:07:39 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: kellynla
When the National Review wrote, “The fundamental fiction is that Obama has refused to release his “real” birth certificate. This is untrue. The document that Obama has made available is the document that Hawaiian authorities issue when they are asked for a birth certificate. There is no secondary document cloaked in darkness, only the state records that are used to generate birth certificates when they are requested.”

LOL! That is when they have jumped the shark! LOL! Any one with half a brain watt knows that is B.S. Instead of putting out this fire... They have poured gas on it. I guess that is what you get with the “Inside the Beltway” type.

My guess is the Republican party will be a permanent minority since they love trashing people in their ranks. When a new party comes into power they will vanish.

8 posted on 07/28/2009 12:08:20 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: kellynla

“The fundamental fiction is that Obama has refused to release his “real” birth certificate. This is untrue. The document that Obama has made available is the document that Hawaiian authorities issue when they are asked for a birth certificate. There is no secondary document cloaked in darkness, only the state records that are used to generate birth certificates when they are requested.”

OK. Let’s see those “state records that are used to generate birth certificates when they are requested.”

there. That was easy...


9 posted on 07/28/2009 12:10:23 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: kellynla
[. . .but it was heralded by the Honolulu Star, as well as the Honolulu Advertiser, each of which published birth announcements for young Mr. Obama.]

Did the writers actually go to the achieves of these papers, or the public library, and see the announcements on microfiche?

10 posted on 07/28/2009 12:10:25 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: kellynla

National Review lost long time ago when it fired Ann Coulter for writing something about muslims. Rich Lowry & Jonah Goldberg are RINOS waiting to be hired by NYTimes as op.ed contributors.

These days NR is getting it’s income from conducting quarterly cruise services.


11 posted on 07/28/2009 12:14:46 PM PDT by anita
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To: kellynla
The director of Hawaii’s health department and the registrar of records each has personally verified that the information on Obama’s birth certificate is identical to that in the state’s records, the so-called vault copy.

This is the statement of the HI Health Dept. Director:

"There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama's official birth certificate. State law (Hawai'i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record. "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i , along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures. "No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai'i ."

All this statement says is that the Director personally saw, and verified, that HI has Obama's original birth certificate. Yeah? So What! That doesn't tell us what information is contained in the Birth Cert, such as his actual place of birth. Am I missing something here?
12 posted on 07/28/2009 12:15:32 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: kellynla

Why don’t the birthers make this a conspiracy worth having. I suggested earlier that the presence of a birth announcement way back in 1961 when no one knew whether this kid was going to have an IQ of 52 or 152 but expected him to be president one day indicates a high level of “supernatural prophetic ability” and “supernatural” involvement. My thought is that SATAN is probably involved.

Therefore, ergo, ersatz, and ipsy dixie, Barck Obama is the Anti-Christ. This twist would explain how some poor little kid who got shuffled all over the world and was raised by his grandmother got to Harvard and became a senator and the POTUS. If this twists gets added, it will play well around the snake-handling religious sects and add an influx of new adherents to replace a lot of people who no longer believe this stuff.

If, BO can be linked to Proctor and Gamble, for instance if someone can find a picture of him with some P&G products, then the whole P&G thing can be resurrected and the birthers can demand some boycotts of products etc.

All in all, since there are just some people who find his COLB so much more interesting and germane than say, “Crap and Played”, they can at least add an aspect that will make a good series of scary movies. Obama I, The Awakening, Obama II, The Mark of the Beast, Obama III - Animal House, Obama IV The Night Chicago Died, etc.

parsy.


13 posted on 07/28/2009 12:19:51 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: SkyDancer

“African-American” on it but that term wasn’t in use when Obama was born

You are right - I forgot about that. I believe the description for AA during that time was “black” and proud of it.


14 posted on 07/28/2009 12:20:22 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: kellynla

Instead of fighting with teams of lawyers all these court cases...why doesn’t he just flip that “short form” on the Judge’s desk and be done with it?? He claims it’s proof of his Hawaiian birth!

I think alot of us know why he doesn’t do that.

Instead, he fights tooth and nail against producing that which he claims he’s already produced!


15 posted on 07/28/2009 12:20:51 PM PDT by battletank
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To: kellynla
I am myself getting tired of emotive overreactions to perfectly legitimate points of view within the conservative community. I think NRO takes a perfectly defensible position here, even if I question some of their factual conclusions.

For a long time now, we on the Right have not been like the Left, which demands of its members ideological rigidity-or-else, and on every little detail.

Rather, what ought to be important to us is philosophical agreement on a core set of values: limited Constitutional government, free enterprise, strong national defense, secure borders, a presumptive right to life and self-defense, a sound currency. Beyond that, let's agree to disagree on tangential matters and focus on the big picture.

Like it or not, Obama is going to be President for the next four years, and the birth certificate issue is not going to unseat him - only a consistent expression of opposing ideas by a clear conservative voice will do that. Let us not allow the ideologues and cynical manipulators in the White House use our disarray against us.

16 posted on 07/28/2009 12:22:01 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: SkyDancer

It said “African.”


17 posted on 07/28/2009 12:22:21 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (America is the best -- 20 million illegal immigrants can't be wrong.)
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To: kellynla
The fact that there are birth announcements in the HI papers may indicate Oshama was born there. However, the fact that he WON'T release his real birth cert. despite all the pressure tells me there IS something implicating on the document.

Most likely "Mohammed" is cited as his middle name on the real birth cert. That would make his passion index go to -25 or so.

18 posted on 07/28/2009 12:22:40 PM PDT by what's up
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The serial number on his birth certificate is 010641.

As posted in comment 4 here birth certificate 010641 is out of sequence
19 posted on 07/28/2009 12:24:50 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Bitsy

No matter what Gibbs says, this is not going to go away. I got mad at Michael Medved the other day when he said it’s not an issue and that’s that ....he really came down hard on several callers when they tried to express themselves ...only thing is, other than Chester A. Arthur (people were saying he was born in Canada) - this has never come up. You need a BC not a COLB to get a passport why not being president????


20 posted on 07/28/2009 12:25:04 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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