Posted on 07/28/2009 5:58:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Uh, that's what we're trying to accomplish pal.
Not his step grandmother’s alleged testimony
There is no step-grandmother. It's his real grandmother on his father's side who said she was there when he was born. And Grandmothers don't lie.
I think the Kenyan Imposter is mortally afraid of being exposed.
Gibb’s nonchalance is an act. Why else would there be such an effort to discredit us? Smoke..fire..
Attacking the authenticity of the Kenyan Imposter raises serious doubts. Good tactic.
ObaMugabe is politically bleeding. Let’s be like Brutus and strike the last blow, huh?
The question is, do you wish to save the Republic or go on wild goose chases?
I’ll make a bet with you. In one year, this issue and “movement” will be in the same place it is today, and in 4 years pushed to the dustbin of history just like the 9/11 truther movement.
My time is valuable. I don’t have time to waste on wild goose chases and innuendos. I work to push conservative ideals every day, and I refuse to have my time wasted, or the time wasted of our movement on this.
Again, its as if though we have Berlin surrounded in WW2 with Hitler in his bunker, and you guys figure “hey lets go take down Munich in the east of Germany”
If you want official proof of where and when he was born, complete with a hospital name and the name of the physician who delivered him (info that can be cross referenced with other hospital records), then just ask Zero to release the long form birth certificate, it contains this information. Instead of spending close to $1 million to keep it locked up, he can spend about $12 and sqaush the ‘birther’ movement once and for all.
There are avowed Communists on Obama’s czar panel. Members of boards of directors on socialist/activists orgs. I want someone to do a Youtube presentation of the list of criminals and commies’ profiles now running these czaristas. It would endict this lying bastard and swing the 2010 election far away from the democrat criminal enterprise. But no one seems brave enough to out these little nettles in visual media except Glenn Beck!
Well, there's this thread that explains how that announcement could have made the paper without him being born there.
Thread on Parent-filed Birth Certs
My own opinion has long been that he probably is a citizen but is hiding something on the long form. What it is, I don't know, but putting up a million dollar fight to avoid showing a birth certificate speaks volumes to me.
Incorrect on his grandmother
The grandmother is Sarah Obama, the 2nd wife of Obama’s grandfather, and Obama’s stepmother
There is no “affidavit”
If there is, produce it for me
The birth announcement is actually the easiest part to explain. You can send a birth, wedding, engagement, anniversary notice to your local paper & they publish it. They do not send detectives out to confirm the details. Anyone who ever submitted their engagement or wedding announcement to the local newspaper knows this.
Say what they must about Imus, but he is nobody’s fool on a string.
No. Prove to me he was born in Kenya.
The burden of proof is on you to prove that he is not who he says he is.
I want hospital, doctor, city, date, time in Kenya.
I also want to see an announcement in a Kenyan newspaper.
So what is the motivation to do this?
Why announce it in Hawaii of all places when he is born in Kenya
Because perhaps 47 years later a mixed man from poor parents might become President?
I understand that, but why would they have needed to have planted a phony birth announcement decades before they knew he was destined to become America's "chosen one".
Thanks to the rest of you for your comments and links as well. I'm definitely going to research it further.
This, like the Clinton rape charges, does nothing but cause distraction from the real damage this guy is doing. He is moving closer to get some kind of deal on health care and the GOP is being smeared with this lunacy.
You “birthers” are doing nothing but helping Obama.
It fit the narrative. Perhaps he was indeed born in Hawaii; but that does not make him Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS, ie natural born citizen.
Anyone with half a brain who’d given birth outside the US, especially in a 3d world country, would have the sense to recognize she would be hobbling the kid if she could not create a scenario in which the everyone believes the kid was hatched on US soil.
See post #14 this thread. And get out of the way.
No. The burden of proof is on President Transparency to prove where he’s from, just like Congress put the burden of proof on John McCain to prove that he was eligable to serve as President if elected because he was born in Panama. McCain satisfied all requests made of him, including providing a long form BC. McCain didn’t go before Congress and say ‘no, YOU have to prove your case’. He complied. Zero hasn’t.
I'd rather save the nation I remember instead of live under someone's jackboot as apparently you want to.
I’ll make a bet with you. In one year, this issue and “movement” will be in the same place it is today, and in 4 years pushed to the dustbin of history just like the 9/11 truther movement.
We will see. Thanks for equating patriots with the POS leftist Troofer movement though.
My time is valuable. I don’t have time to waste on wild goose chases and innuendos.
You're spending a lot of time on this thread trying to refute stuff that has been archived and known here for months.
I work to push conservative ideals every day, and I refuse to have my time wasted, or the time wasted of our movement on this.
Yeah sure you are. I bet you used to be a "staunch Republican, but...." too right?
Again, its as if though we have Berlin surrounded in WW2 with Hitler in his bunker, and you guys figure “hey lets go take down Munich in the east of Germany”
What a ridiculous analogy. If we had Hitler in our sites (as we do with the Obama Certifigate) we'd charge in and take him down.
I never said there was one genius.
Prove to me he was born in Kenya.
I'm not the one spending millions hiding who I am. Burden of proof is on Zero.
The burden of proof is on you to prove that he is not who he says he is.
Bullshit he's the one who ran for office, he needs to prove who he is TO US.
I want hospital, doctor, city, date, time in Kenya.
Some mud hut swarming with mosquitoes and surrounded by malnourished children with bloated bellies? How the heck should I know?
Birthers are helping Nobama spend $1 million to hide documentation that for $12 can be released and will put the whole matter to bed? All of this can end tomorrow. McCain had to prove his eligability to be President, and he took the necessary steps to prove it. Nobama released a form that can’t be used as valid proof of anything outside of Hawaii. And, since Zero’s favorability ratings have been dropping like a rock, I don’t see how this issue is helping him now.
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