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To: asformeandformyhouse
The truth is that the Windows 7 (and XP and Vista via an update) will allow for the selection of one of 10 different browsers commonly used in Europe. This is the result of an EU lawsuit, not specifically an Opera lawsuit.

You really need to brush up on your facts. Opera filed an antitrust complaint with the EU Commission claiming that Microsoft was violating the law by not including Opera with Windows. The EU Commission ruled in favor of Opera, which is based in Norway. Microsoft then said they would not include any web browser, not even IE, with European copies of Windows 7. They recently relented and offered to present users with a screen that lets the user select a web browser to download. Opera got half of what they wanted, which is a vehicle to increase their market share without actually competing, something they have been notoriously poor at.

Maybe someday they’ll get around to noticing Apple.

I would hope for the sake of legal sanity and common sense, they don't. But I suspect Opera is considering filing suit against Apple. It must really burn them up that Safari has a bigger market share than Opera's own browser.
49 posted on 07/29/2009 12:26:25 PM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: Terpfen

No. The lawsuit was by the EU, not Opera. The anti-trust complaint that initiated the lawsuit was initially filed by Opera but others signed on to the complaint. Filing an antitrust complaint is roughly the equivalent of reporting a crime. Opera reported what it perceived to be illegal activity to the EU - the EU has agreed. The motives of Opera are irrelevant in this situation - illegal is illegal. The same thing was done with Media Player in 2004.

Granted, some would consider this a distinction without a difference, but from a legal perspective it is what it is.

Opera is a leader in the mobile browser market and one of their assertions was that if they had been allowed to compete fairly they would have been in the PC browser market as well - and the EU agrees.

As to how they feel concerning market share and Safari, I have yet to hear. But since they are a EU country, and the law consistently agrees with them, we may soon see.


50 posted on 07/29/2009 1:41:55 PM PDT by asformeandformyhouse (I've been listening to a lot of rap music lately. Mostly at red lights and stop signs.)
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To: Terpfen

After reading your last post more closely, I think it’s likely that our differences in the understanding of the EU lawsuit is more a matter of semantics. It appears that I gave you background info that you had already stated as true - my mistake.


52 posted on 07/29/2009 1:59:44 PM PDT by asformeandformyhouse (I've been listening to a lot of rap music lately. Mostly at red lights and stop signs.)
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