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John Batchelor: Paranoids Ate My Party (Compares "Birthers" to Klan, Communists and Whigs)
The Daily Beast ^ | July 28, 2009 | John Batchelor

Posted on 07/28/2009 10:20:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: jonrick46

“My question: can’t anyone find any friends, classmates etc that have any answers to the question, where did Stanley Ann have her baby? “

It’s much much worse than this.

No one can say Stanley was in Hawaii while fully pregnant. There are no nurses, no doctors, no ladies in the next bed, no photographs, no friends, no records of any kind, not a single witness ——— because she wasn’t there!

And the same bizarre scenario applies to many other aspects of his life - his mentor of 8 years is a bisexual deviant with a 699 page FBI file!!!


His mentor writes a pornographic book about his repeated statutory rape of an underaged girl named “Ann”.

How many girl’s names are there out there? 100? 1000?

So this is just an odd coincidence?

No mother. No father. No grandfather. Can’t talk to Grandmother. No family friends. No ex-girlfriends, not even one! No photos, no ex girl friend photos, no one has come forth, although there is one mysterious white one that he mentioned in the book he supposedly wrote ... about how he threw her away cuz she was white.

All Muslim roommates.

And ... Did you see that the politician Alice Palmer, to whom he was chief of staff in Chicago, attended the 27th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and had been greatly impressed by the Soviet system?

She made many statements explaining how wonderful Russia was and not at all evil like White America, which specialized, according to her, in giving blacks second tier education (!) and second grade citizen status.

Read for yourself at :

Don’t you think it odd that he is a Chief of Staff to a Moscow visiting politician?

Do you know a single other politician in all of America who goes to Moscow to attend Party Congresses???

What, you don’t know one?

Out of thousands?

And this is the one he chose to work for ???

What does that tell you??? (Alan Keyes knew what it meant, and said so)?

And when he had her disqualified from re-election by having 70% of her qualifying signatures disqualified ... she never made a peep.

And to this day still doesn’t make a peep, or even a comment?

Can you say “Party Discipline” ???

121 posted on 07/29/2009 6:40:22 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
endorse the self-evident fact that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii

Self-evident? It's true because the Obamessiah said so?

Self-deluding fool. I suppose he still thinks the Democrats are loyal opposition. There's precious little in politics these days that is self-evident, other than that Hillary is incompetent, and Obama is arrogant, and moderate Republicans are self-deluding Pollyannas.

122 posted on 07/29/2009 7:22:30 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Everything I've read about this Zer0 creeps me out. And, you know what creeps me out even more? The suspicious fall of the economy right before the election.
123 posted on 07/29/2009 9:23:19 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Windflier

” You are accepting hearsay, claims, and conjecture as evidence, and this is what makes your posts draw so much fire.”

LOL, get serious. The BIRTHERS are accepting hearsay, claims, and conjecture as evidence, and then rejecting more solid, on the record evidence. A great example is the newspaper announcement. This is ‘waved away’ because of a 2nd hand report of a neighbor saying something the WND reporter about not remembering seeing them around 47 years ago.

Not to mention the phony report of ‘grandma says he was born in Kenya’ (nope, that was just bad reporting).

And you accuse *ME* of accepting ‘hearsay’!?!? Dont you see the double-standard? Physician heal thyself!

“We who are asking Mr. Obama to come clean with his past are making a very simple and legitimate request”
... so long as you admit that Obama was probably born in Honolulu just as the Aug 13th 1961 newspaper announcement seems to show, you are on solid ground. I’m with you.
BUT once you launch into these innocent-until-proven-guilty theories (”hes hiding it because his real Dad is Frank Davi Marshall and other BS) and suggest he HAS to have something horrible to hide (nope, maybe BHO just wants to hide it to P888 you off) and make false claims like “The COLB is a proven forgery” (no its not, nothing of the sort has been proven), you are outside that solid ground.
You are throwing junk out there to muddy the waters. Excuse me if I call BS on BS.

I too would like a lot more real information about Obama and not the Obamedia BS protection zone. But wanting more information doesnt mean I will automatically assume the worst and most bizarre assumptions about how he was born. He was almost certainly born in Honolulu.

124 posted on 07/29/2009 11:00:59 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: Wonder Warthog

“The original BC says his birthplace is Honolulu. In order to collect on the bet it needs to be revealed and say otherwise.”

“You’ve seen the original?? I seriously doubt that.”

No I havent seen the original. That’s why its an honest bet. I’ve calculated the odds at 99.999% Obama was really born in Hawaii and that is what his original birth cert will show, and 1 in a million odds that some variation of the birther conspiracy theory is true. Loong odds.

” What you MAY have seen was a computer generated forgery posted on an Obama supporting website.”
There was not forgery of the COLB. That is your false supposition and conclusion. The COLB has now been corroborated by the State of Hawaii official’s statement that Obama’s records show him born in Hawaii, we now have the cert # lining up very closely with babies born the day after Obama - just what you’d expect; and if you look at other COLB forms done in 2007, they look exactly the same as Obama’s COLB (so we know that at least any such forgery is not some crude one); also, I’d note that the COLB photographs clearly show that the COLB is a real physical document:

If the above photographed COLB is not a forgery, then we know *exactly* what is in Obama’s state of Hawaii records, its right there on the COLB.

“This is easily resolved-—have the Hawaii Secretary of Public Health (or whatever his relevant title is), testify UNDER OATH that he has seen the original and it says Obama was born in Hawaii.”

You have gotten a public statement from that official, Dr Chiyome Fukino of state of Hawaii records office:

“I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen,” Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino

“A notarized statement will do quite nicely.”
Sure, but this public official put their professional credibility on the line and made it public.

” Until something like that is done, legitimate doubt remains.”
Not really. Doubt remains, but I question the legitimacy of it when there are corroborating facts that align with the official’s statement and no credible alternative scenario regarding BHO’s birth.

125 posted on 07/29/2009 11:08:26 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: ckilmer

No, I would say the reason for his falling poll numbers are as follows:

The economy is worse now than when he took over
Cap and Trade
Gates incident
Healthcare “reform”
Apologizing for USA actions abroad at every turn
ETc, etc

His falling poll numbers have absolutely NOTHING to do with a birth certificate.

126 posted on 07/29/2009 11:20:26 AM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. really does)
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To: dalereed

Well, he’s been around....did an unbelievable job covering 9-11 as his show was out of New York and started 3 days before 9-11 happened.

When his show was taken off the air on ABC, many Freepers were quite upset, including me.

But he’s a jerk because he agrees with Coulter, American Spectator, American Thinker, Hot Air Pundit, etc? Brilliant (eyes rolling).

Here’s just one of 100’s (if not 1000’s) of examples of Freepers supporting what Batchelor says but of course when he says something that rubs you the wrong way, well he’s a jerk. Everything is so absolute with some people here.

127 posted on 07/29/2009 11:30:12 AM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. really does)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Maybe she should get her statement notarized, as according to this, she probably viewed the records as part of a lawsuit preparation:
“A Hawai’i COLB is only one piece of paper in a complicated evidentiary inquiry involving Obama. No one outside two people from the Hawai’i Department of Health has apparently viewed the original 1961 document. Neither of them has any forensic or legal experience. Health Director Chiyome Fukino is a medical doctor.

She probably dug out the original COLB because the Attorney General of Hawai’i asked her to. Does that make sense? Absolutely it does. After all, his office has to appear at a court hearing in two weeks and respond to my lawsuit. That is the way lawsuits progress. Lawyers (AG) consult clients (DofH) and ask for evidence to prepare for court.”

128 posted on 07/29/2009 11:34:56 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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I get the argument and defending the Constitution is a must. Seems to me, however, he has met the Constitutional requirements or he wouldn’t have been certified in 50 states plus Puerto Rico, Guam, etc....nor would he be sworn in under oath by the SCOTUS.

Maybe we should go after the Chief Justice next and have him impeached because he didn’t properly vet if the man was a citizen? /sarcasm

129 posted on 07/29/2009 11:38:26 AM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. really does)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

He called himself a Blue Dog? Interesting, because on his website and everywhere else he clearly lists himself as a Republican and a conservative. Is there such thing as a Blue Dog Republican? :)

130 posted on 07/29/2009 11:41:09 AM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. really does)
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To: McGruff

Why did Ann Coulter say the same thing as Batchelor?

131 posted on 07/29/2009 11:43:26 AM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. really does)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s not the author’s real name.


132 posted on 07/29/2009 11:43:31 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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The BIRTHERS are accepting hearsay, claims, and conjecture as evidence, and then rejecting more solid, on the record evidence.

That's flat-out untrue (and I did notice how you capitalized the word "birthers").

You, with your fingers in your ears, don't seem to notice that the Birthers are doing the exact OPPOSITE of what you accuse us of. We are NOT accepting hearsay, claims, and conjecture as evidence, as those on the left are doing.

The ENTIRE thrust of the so-called birther movement is to compel Obama and his minions to release factual evidence and verifiable documentation about this enigma's provenance and life history.

To date, all that Obama has released to the public are jpeg images of questionable origin and authenticity. He has not once submitted the most standard of personal documents to any court, qualified experts, or the US Congress for verification of his claims to eligibility.

Worse still, he has so far been tone-deaf to calls from the American people to do this very simple thing. He has steadfastly ignored every request to simply end the speculation by providing documents that every American citizen must provide in the due course of conducting their normal lives.

In fact, his attorneys have beat back every single court challenge to compel him to do this. If he is what he and his supporters say he is, then this behavior is inexplicable at best, and proves that he is indeed a fraud, at worst.

Until we see some hard evidence of Obama's eligibility to hold office, we'll have to work with circumstantial evidence, logic, and reason.

I tell you, it's real hubris to call people unreasonable and "nutty" for simply demanding solid evidence and truth on an issue of such basic importance. Especially when that evidence can be tendered with no effort whatsoever.

No - all of the effort being expended by the Obama camp and his supporters is to hide and withhold this vital data.

This is the glaring light in your face that you've closed your eyes to.

133 posted on 07/29/2009 11:47:30 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SideoutFred

Let’s examine your reasoning. You assert that because he signed sworn affidavits in the 50 states that he was Constitutionally eligible, he must be eligible. But by another act to sign onto the McCain Senate resolution which stated clearly why McCain was considered a natural born ciutizen, yet by Obama’s own words, having a father who was a British subject and never an American citizen, Obama doesn’t meet the level of qualification he agreed was necessary for McCain to be eligible!

134 posted on 07/29/2009 12:06:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: SideoutFred
"anything but a lefty"

Can I just call him a nut then?

135 posted on 07/29/2009 12:23:12 PM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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I detest Obama, but he is a natural born American citizen. I would guess that if the Obamaniacs produced the “long” form of his birth certificate, the birthers would call that a forgery. Nothing seems to sway them. They have no proof on their side that he was born outside the U.S., and the anti-birthers have a number of pieces of evidence....and logic on their ide. So you think the birthers would acknowledge the facts? Of course not, much better to keep the conspiracy alive.

136 posted on 07/29/2009 12:28:41 PM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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There are only two ways her testimony means anything at all. One is a notarized document of testimony, the other is her verbal testimony, UNDER OATH, at a court proceeding. Outside of those two cases, anything she says means exactly nothing. I’d make a small wager that if she were asked to do such a notarized document that you would see more backpedalling than a land-stranded crawfish.

137 posted on 07/29/2009 12:56:51 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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No, I actually said that he was certified in all 50 states, meaning that the Sec. of State of each of those states said he was legitimate in terms of meeting the requirements. Many of those states are Republican controlled. If those Sec. of States certified him (i.e...let him on the ballot) then by default the gov’t of those states found no reason not make him eligible for the presidency.

It seems rather odd to me that all 50 states would be duped since this whole “birther” thing has been going on for 2.5 years, plenty of time in advance of the general election.

Why was he certified on the ballot to be elected if he didn’t meet the criteria?

I keep coming back if the shoe was on the other foot and the libs were saying this about Bush or whatever Republican was in office, we would all call them completely crazy. So why is it any different when the shoe is on our foot?

138 posted on 07/29/2009 2:22:10 PM PDT by SideoutFred (B.O. really does)
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To: SideoutFred
Yes, and this is recent. When he had the show with Paul Alexander (of Village Voice, and McLame biography fame), Paul was the Dem/lib, and John was allegedly the Republican/conservative. But even in those days, John was sounding very RINO. Once, I heard him describe himself as a “Northeastern/New England Republican,” which is basically a RINO, as we well know.

Even so, his calling Rush a race-baiter (of all things!) makes me want to ask, “In what alternate universe has *he* been floating?”

BTW, I first heard him during the blue dress period, in late night guest appearances with Steve Malzberg, when the latter had an overnight show on WABC. At that time, Batchelor did historical stuff regarding impeachment, and the like. He was RIVETING! Unfortunately, he sure turned out to be a huge disappointment.

139 posted on 07/29/2009 4:24:32 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I am only ONE of many real Jim Thompsons, yet I am ONE.)
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To: Frantzie

I noticed the same thing. All the third, fourth, and fifth tier hosts are providing cover for Obama. I wonder who is paying them... Who is in charge?

When did our guys get coopted by the bad guys? They’re attacking their own party.

140 posted on 07/29/2009 4:36:21 PM PDT by o2bfree (This president is giving me a headache!)
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