Skip to comments.John Batchelor: Paranoids Ate My Party (Compares "Birthers" to Klan, Communists and Whigs)
Posted on 07/28/2009 10:20:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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“I bet any birther 10 to 1 odds any amount of money that his BC will say birthplace Honolulu when revealed.”
I’ll take that bet for $100.
Where do I sign up?
And, after 10 years, his real BC has still not been shown, what can I still collect? say, half?
Cuz he ain’t never gonna show it,
cuz it says 17/ barely 18 yr old Mom was in Kenya, and Grandma filed for her in Honolulu.
Unmarried “Stanley” (man, that right there tells you a lot!) was sent out of the country due to undue embarrassment to the Africa she loved so much.
WOSG... you are right, do you really trust the words that come out of any ones mouth that is part of this administration? even our own center and center right don’t have the balls to question the birth cert, its political suicide, they all have something to hide and if they expose Obama, they in turn jeopardize exposing themselves by Obama. They are buying time for the forging to be perfect then it will be released, that is why everything should be out front, school records, passport, all of it. I’ll be the first to admit I took a oath many years ago to protect and defend the constitution, I still believe in that oath, and what I see this man and his administration doing to America needs to be stop, and if he continues on this way and this is the only to stop him by proving him a fraud, a liar, a cheat,a fake,a imposter and a hypocrite and I could think of alot more adjectives then so be it. This is exactly the same stuff that brought on the American revolution. Sorry now see what you’ve done your making feel like a radical right wing nut case.
>>>Yes, we are all loons, nutjobs, whackos and idiots
If the shoe fits. The lynch mobs against people on our own side such as Batchelor is strong circumstantial evidence.
>>>And in the age old ritual around here, as soon as a conservative says one thing that goes against what a few people here believe, they are immediately labeled as liberals, etc. The idea that John Batchelor is a liberal may be one of the funniest things Ive ever read
Not to mention Anne Coulter and National Review for gods sake.
>>>The only thing that I can come up with is stimulus money
Sounds like the lameass Haliburton meme that the DU freaks lived on the last 8 years.
He use to be on the radio on 630am in DC.
Hey, ****head. It ain't paranoia if they're really out to get you.
Write us an article about the intersection of ICC, ACORN, the New Party, Media Matters, The Tides Foundation, the Bilderbergers and Trilaterals and the CFR, SPP/NAFTA, WTO, LOST, and the NWO, and then get back to us about paranoia.
I sniffed this guy out
No, actually they have not. The only thing that WILL answer that question is a release of a OFFICIAL photocopy of the long form birth certificate. All the rest of the "evidence" does NOT prove natural born citizenship status. The FACT that he has not released the info is sufficient to prove to me that he is hiding something. I guess you believe John Kerry is a hero, too.
I used to enjoy listening to Batchelor, while driving my son to work at night.
Claudia Rosett, who did a lot of early work exposing the UN’s oil-for-food scandal, was a frequent guest of his.
I was impressed that he discussed so many international topics with knowledgeable guests.
He used to mention that his mother was an Iranian.
I haven’t heard him recently.
It doesn't matter where he was born if Obama Sr.'s marriage to Kezia Obama, his first wife, hadn't been annulled. If it hadn't been, then the Obama marriage to Miss Dunham was void under U.S. law, making Obama Jr. illegitimate but still a natural-born U.S. citizenship under Article II, even if he was born at the South Pole and watched over by penguins.
(The first marriage was supposedly a village affair, the Kenyan equivalent of a common-law marriage. Doesn't matter: it was valid under U.K. and colonial law.)
There is a train of questions about Obama Jr.'s citizenship status, about his adoption, expatriation, and later use of possibly non-U.S. travel documents, that wants dealing with. There is just a whole lot there that needs cleaning up.
With the MainSlimeMedia cranking up the heat and guys like Batchelor and Ann Coulter feeling it, the heat itself means the "birthers" [note the Left-wing term of abuse] are doing something right.
That kind of reaction isn't just the usual casual abuse, it's the Full Treatment, a mass application of the Politics of Personal Destruction, the same thing Newt got in 1995 and Sarah got last year. That means we are doing something right.
Okay, case closed. Now let’s just sit back and wait for it to go away.
I don't think it will add up to impeachment either, but I can see one positive effect coming out of the birther craziness. Some middle-of-the-roaders we know -- so-called "independents" who don't follow politics, don't understand economic theory and who are easily lulled into complacency by the media -- are starting to question Obama's background, and the long list of missing academic, legislative and medical records.
The pedestal is starting to crack, and the Gates episode took another chunk out of it. Maybe, just maybe he's not the noble, post-racial fellow they thought they were voting for...
It's probable that Obama's minions are involved in both sides of this issue -- as the scathing mockers of "birthers," but also as encouraging birthers pushing the crazy stuff -- Kenya birth, bogus SS No.'s, killing of someone distantly involved with the passport file break-in, and, of course, generalized paranoia -- the crazier the better, to drown out the inevitable drip of actual facts that contradict his gloriously fictionalized biography.
Much of the frenzied birthers may actually be Obamas Acorns trying to cloud everything like throwing radar reflecting chaff in the air.
It does not matter to me where Obama was born, if or what his BC says, all that matters is the cumulative evidence that goes back long before the election that I have spent hundreds of hours filing away, everything from who paid for Obamas cell phones to the two botched swearing in ceremonies.
All of it is an overwhelming damnable amount of evidence that can absolutely beyond a doubt portray this individual as an Enemy of the State.
Its not about a birth certificate, its about who has managed to be POTUS and us stopping him from destroying America.
Chasing the birth certificate issue is like trying to paint your house with a toothbrush, it can eventually be done, we can all assemble and hold signs across the country and that again would be painting the house but instead we are throwing paint filled balloons at it.
There is a right way and proper tool for everything, we have to convince enough of Congress that there is a real legitimacy issue here, laws were broken and ignored, penalties must be enforced. Its time to expand the other relevant issues that disqualifies Obama from POTUS.
John. What happened to you? Hanging out with Meghan McCain at The Daily Beast?
I use to like to listen to Batchelor when he was on WABC. And he was into conspiracies during the Clinton years. I can't understand why he would write this kind of MSDNC type talking points.
Paranoids? You want to see paranoids?
Just listen to the mainstream media talk about Sarah Palin. Now THAT’S paranoid!
He’s over there with sex-pot Meghan McCain with his panties in a twist. She would be so happy to help him out with that if he would only ask the poor thing out on a date.
If this is all just a silly rumor on the fringe, then why all the sweat among the political establishment?
Leftists are going to try and use this to their advantage in smearing conservatives...yet over 40% of Americans consider themselves conservative. Most Americans want Obama and all politicans to obey the constitution which includes Obama’s qualification.
So the Left and their Rino plas are on a mission to smear 40% of the voters and anybody who is for holding politicans to the constitution?
Good luck with that strategy. The Left is sinking in public opinion with the strategy of smearing conservatives. Rinos are making it so the GOP is not getting full advantage to this shift.
“Impeachment and removal with a Democrat Congress will not happen. “
“Devastate to me means render politically impotent. “
Nothing Obama did in his past will be relevent to his political power now. If Wright and Ayers didnt do it, nothing will.
“I doubt very much that even if proven ineligible for the office, Obama would willingly leave. “
I agree. Besides, Obama is eligible two ways: Birth in Honolulu, and having a US citizen mother. (1986 INA law retoractively made those in Obama’s situation citizens at birth no matter where born).
“Obama supports Zelaya while he tramples the Honduran Constitution. This from a so-called Constitutional Scholar.”
This from a leftist who takes care of his own. We need to be wary of what O will do under duress.
“Cuz he aint never gonna show it”
I’ve been saying for some time that Obama beneftis from having the birthers, so he will never show the original BC, partly to keep this alive. So no, you cannot collect on the case of the BC not showing up. The bet’s not on unless it does.
The original BC says his birthplace is Honolulu. In order to collect on the bet it needs to be revealed and say otherwise.
Interesting that no birther will take me up on the original bet.
“Unmarried Stanley (man, that right there tells you a lot!) was sent out of the country due to undue embarrassment to the Africa she loved so much.” There’s zero evidence she was EVER in Africa, let alone as 9 months pregnant woman.
You've seen the original?? I seriously doubt that. What you MAY have seen was a computer generated forgery posted on an Obama supporting website. This is easily resolved---have the Hawaii Secretary of Public Health (or whatever his relevant title is), testify UNDER OATH that he has seen the original and it says Obama was born in Hawaii. A notarized statement will do quite nicely. Until something like that is done, legitimate doubt remains. A "press conference" statement means exactly nothing. Politicians make all sorts of "less than true" statements to the media all the time.
What’s REALLY interesting is that last year, when this was all getting started on the blogs- Batchelor was all over it. He regularly had Larry Johnson on his show to discuss it and he was not thinking the way he writes now.
Ahhh well..the mystery continues and grows. Not just the questions about his birth- but the various reactions from well-known conservatives.
They all seem thoroughly embarrassed and full of tsk-tsk’s..
“My question: can’t anyone find any friends, classmates etc that have any answers to the question, where did Stanley Ann have her baby? “
It’s much much worse than this.
No one can say Stanley was in Hawaii while fully pregnant. There are no nurses, no doctors, no ladies in the next bed, no photographs, no friends, no records of any kind, not a single witness ——— because she wasn’t there!
And the same bizarre scenario applies to many other aspects of his life - his mentor of 8 years is a bisexual deviant with a 699 page FBI file!!!
His mentor writes a pornographic book about his repeated statutory rape of an underaged girl named “Ann”.
How many girl’s names are there out there? 100? 1000?
So this is just an odd coincidence?
No mother. No father. No grandfather. Can’t talk to Grandmother. No family friends. No ex-girlfriends, not even one! No photos, no ex girl friend photos, no one has come forth, although there is one mysterious white one that he mentioned in the book he supposedly wrote ... about how he threw her away cuz she was white.
All Muslim roommates.
And ... Did you see that the politician Alice Palmer, to whom he was chief of staff in Chicago, attended the 27th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and had been greatly impressed by the Soviet system?
She made many statements explaining how wonderful Russia was and not at all evil like White America, which specialized, according to her, in giving blacks second tier education (!) and second grade citizen status.
Read for yourself at :
Don’t you think it odd that he is a Chief of Staff to a Moscow visiting politician?
Do you know a single other politician in all of America who goes to Moscow to attend Party Congresses???
What, you don’t know one?
Out of thousands?
And this is the one he chose to work for ???
What does that tell you??? (Alan Keyes knew what it meant, and said so)?
And when he had her disqualified from re-election by having 70% of her qualifying signatures disqualified ... she never made a peep.
And to this day still doesn’t make a peep, or even a comment?
Can you say “Party Discipline” ???
Self-evident? It's true because the Obamessiah said so?
Self-deluding fool. I suppose he still thinks the Democrats are loyal opposition. There's precious little in politics these days that is self-evident, other than that Hillary is incompetent, and Obama is arrogant, and moderate Republicans are self-deluding Pollyannas.
” You are accepting hearsay, claims, and conjecture as evidence, and this is what makes your posts draw so much fire.”
LOL, get serious. The BIRTHERS are accepting hearsay, claims, and conjecture as evidence, and then rejecting more solid, on the record evidence. A great example is the newspaper announcement. This is ‘waved away’ because of a 2nd hand report of a neighbor saying something the WND reporter about not remembering seeing them around 47 years ago.
Not to mention the phony report of ‘grandma says he was born in Kenya’ (nope, that was just bad reporting).
And you accuse *ME* of accepting ‘hearsay’!?!? Dont you see the double-standard? Physician heal thyself!
“We who are asking Mr. Obama to come clean with his past are making a very simple and legitimate request”
... so long as you admit that Obama was probably born in Honolulu just as the Aug 13th 1961 newspaper announcement seems to show, you are on solid ground. I’m with you.
BUT once you launch into these innocent-until-proven-guilty theories (”hes hiding it because his real Dad is Frank Davi Marshall and other BS) and suggest he HAS to have something horrible to hide (nope, maybe BHO just wants to hide it to P888 you off) and make false claims like “The COLB is a proven forgery” (no its not, nothing of the sort has been proven), you are outside that solid ground.
You are throwing junk out there to muddy the waters. Excuse me if I call BS on BS.
I too would like a lot more real information about Obama and not the Obamedia BS protection zone. But wanting more information doesnt mean I will automatically assume the worst and most bizarre assumptions about how he was born. He was almost certainly born in Honolulu.
“The original BC says his birthplace is Honolulu. In order to collect on the bet it needs to be revealed and say otherwise.”
“You’ve seen the original?? I seriously doubt that.”
No I havent seen the original. That’s why its an honest bet. I’ve calculated the odds at 99.999% Obama was really born in Hawaii and that is what his original birth cert will show, and 1 in a million odds that some variation of the birther conspiracy theory is true. Loong odds.
” What you MAY have seen was a computer generated forgery posted on an Obama supporting website.”
There was not forgery of the COLB. That is your false supposition and conclusion. The COLB has now been corroborated by the State of Hawaii official’s statement that Obama’s records show him born in Hawaii, we now have the cert # lining up very closely with babies born the day after Obama - just what you’d expect; and if you look at other COLB forms done in 2007, they look exactly the same as Obama’s COLB (so we know that at least any such forgery is not some crude one); also, I’d note that the COLB photographs clearly show that the COLB is a real physical document:
If the above photographed COLB is not a forgery, then we know *exactly* what is in Obama’s state of Hawaii records, its right there on the COLB.
“This is easily resolved-—have the Hawaii Secretary of Public Health (or whatever his relevant title is), testify UNDER OATH that he has seen the original and it says Obama was born in Hawaii.”
You have gotten a public statement from that official, Dr Chiyome Fukino of state of Hawaii records office: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/27/AR2009072703114.html
I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen, Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino
“A notarized statement will do quite nicely.”
Sure, but this public official put their professional credibility on the line and made it public.
” Until something like that is done, legitimate doubt remains.”
Not really. Doubt remains, but I question the legitimacy of it when there are corroborating facts that align with the official’s statement and no credible alternative scenario regarding BHO’s birth.
No, I would say the reason for his falling poll numbers are as follows:
The economy is worse now than when he took over
Cap and Trade
Apologizing for USA actions abroad at every turn
His falling poll numbers have absolutely NOTHING to do with a birth certificate.
Well, he’s been around....did an unbelievable job covering 9-11 as his show was out of New York and started 3 days before 9-11 happened.
When his show was taken off the air on ABC, many Freepers were quite upset, including me.
But he’s a jerk because he agrees with Coulter, American Spectator, American Thinker, Hot Air Pundit, etc? Brilliant (eyes rolling).
Here’s just one of 100’s (if not 1000’s) of examples of Freepers supporting what Batchelor says but of course when he says something that rubs you the wrong way, well he’s a jerk. Everything is so absolute with some people here.
Maybe she should get her statement notarized, as according to this, she probably viewed the records as part of a lawsuit preparation:
“A Hawai’i COLB is only one piece of paper in a complicated evidentiary inquiry involving Obama. No one outside two people from the Hawai’i Department of Health has apparently viewed the original 1961 document. Neither of them has any forensic or legal experience. Health Director Chiyome Fukino is a medical doctor.
She probably dug out the original COLB because the Attorney General of Hawai’i asked her to. Does that make sense? Absolutely it does. After all, his office has to appear at a court hearing in two weeks and respond to my lawsuit. That is the way lawsuits progress. Lawyers (AG) consult clients (DofH) and ask for evidence to prepare for court.”
I get the argument and defending the Constitution is a must. Seems to me, however, he has met the Constitutional requirements or he wouldn’t have been certified in 50 states plus Puerto Rico, Guam, etc....nor would he be sworn in under oath by the SCOTUS.
Maybe we should go after the Chief Justice next and have him impeached because he didn’t properly vet if the man was a citizen? /sarcasm
He called himself a Blue Dog? Interesting, because on his website and everywhere else he clearly lists himself as a Republican and a conservative. Is there such thing as a Blue Dog Republican? :)
Why did Ann Coulter say the same thing as Batchelor?
That’s not the author’s real name.
That's flat-out untrue (and I did notice how you capitalized the word "birthers").
You, with your fingers in your ears, don't seem to notice that the Birthers are doing the exact OPPOSITE of what you accuse us of. We are NOT accepting hearsay, claims, and conjecture as evidence, as those on the left are doing.
The ENTIRE thrust of the so-called birther movement is to compel Obama and his minions to release factual evidence and verifiable documentation about this enigma's provenance and life history.
To date, all that Obama has released to the public are jpeg images of questionable origin and authenticity. He has not once submitted the most standard of personal documents to any court, qualified experts, or the US Congress for verification of his claims to eligibility.
Worse still, he has so far been tone-deaf to calls from the American people to do this very simple thing. He has steadfastly ignored every request to simply end the speculation by providing documents that every American citizen must provide in the due course of conducting their normal lives.
In fact, his attorneys have beat back every single court challenge to compel him to do this. If he is what he and his supporters say he is, then this behavior is inexplicable at best, and proves that he is indeed a fraud, at worst.
Until we see some hard evidence of Obama's eligibility to hold office, we'll have to work with circumstantial evidence, logic, and reason.
I tell you, it's real hubris to call people unreasonable and "nutty" for simply demanding solid evidence and truth on an issue of such basic importance. Especially when that evidence can be tendered with no effort whatsoever.
No - all of the effort being expended by the Obama camp and his supporters is to hide and withhold this vital data.
This is the glaring light in your face that you've closed your eyes to.
Let’s examine your reasoning. You assert that because he signed sworn affidavits in the 50 states that he was Constitutionally eligible, he must be eligible. But by another act to sign onto the McCain Senate resolution which stated clearly why McCain was considered a natural born ciutizen, yet by Obama’s own words, having a father who was a British subject and never an American citizen, Obama doesn’t meet the level of qualification he agreed was necessary for McCain to be eligible!
Can I just call him a nut then?
I detest Obama, but he is a natural born American citizen. I would guess that if the Obamaniacs produced the “long” form of his birth certificate, the birthers would call that a forgery. Nothing seems to sway them. They have no proof on their side that he was born outside the U.S., and the anti-birthers have a number of pieces of evidence....and logic on their ide. So you think the birthers would acknowledge the facts? Of course not, much better to keep the conspiracy alive.
There are only two ways her testimony means anything at all. One is a notarized document of testimony, the other is her verbal testimony, UNDER OATH, at a court proceeding. Outside of those two cases, anything she says means exactly nothing. I’d make a small wager that if she were asked to do such a notarized document that you would see more backpedalling than a land-stranded crawfish.
No, I actually said that he was certified in all 50 states, meaning that the Sec. of State of each of those states said he was legitimate in terms of meeting the requirements. Many of those states are Republican controlled. If those Sec. of States certified him (i.e...let him on the ballot) then by default the gov’t of those states found no reason not make him eligible for the presidency.
It seems rather odd to me that all 50 states would be duped since this whole “birther” thing has been going on for 2.5 years, plenty of time in advance of the general election.
Why was he certified on the ballot to be elected if he didn’t meet the criteria?
I keep coming back if the shoe was on the other foot and the libs were saying this about Bush or whatever Republican was in office, we would all call them completely crazy. So why is it any different when the shoe is on our foot?
Even so, his calling Rush a race-baiter (of all things!) makes me want to ask, “In what alternate universe has *he* been floating?”
BTW, I first heard him during the blue dress period, in late night guest appearances with Steve Malzberg, when the latter had an overnight show on WABC. At that time, Batchelor did historical stuff regarding impeachment, and the like. He was RIVETING! Unfortunately, he sure turned out to be a huge disappointment.
I noticed the same thing. All the third, fourth, and fifth tier hosts are providing cover for Obama. I wonder who is paying them... Who is in charge?
When did our guys get coopted by the bad guys? They’re attacking their own party.