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Public housing moving out
Washington Times ^ | 07/29/09

Posted on 07/29/2009 5:49:48 AM PDT by freed0misntfree

ATLANTA

The nation's bulldozer attack on crime and poverty soon will make Atlanta - home of the first public housing development - the first major city to eliminate all of its large housing projects.

Cities from Boston to Los Angeles are following its lead. For more than 15 years, housing officials across the country have been razing the projects where about 1.2 million families live and replacing them with a mix of higher-rent and subsidized apartments and homes.

Alexandria, La., has taken down at least 247 units. Buffalo, N.Y., has demolished about 1,000 aging homes. Atlanta expects to finish tearing down the last of its sprawling projects in June.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: publichousing
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1 posted on 07/29/2009 5:49:49 AM PDT by freed0misntfree
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To: freed0misntfree

And then they move out to the burbs...


2 posted on 07/29/2009 5:52:27 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: freed0misntfree

This is the equivalent of taking your garbage out of your garbage can and spreading it around your house.


3 posted on 07/29/2009 5:57:25 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: freed0misntfree

This is how they do it in Paris. That’s led to the muslim-yoot ghettos and the annual car-burning festivals.


4 posted on 07/29/2009 6:01:48 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: freed0misntfree

That’s the whole premis behind section-8 housing. They are doing it here in Illinois on a large scale. All of the high rise projects on the Lake Michigans (gold)coast are coming down so Dailey can put actual tax payers on that high dollar real estate and the small downstate towns and suburbs are getting the crime and gangs. We have small 40 to 50 unit appartment complexes in my home town that are getting overrun with Chicago transplants.


5 posted on 07/29/2009 6:01:50 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: freed0misntfree

Next- Chicago?


6 posted on 07/29/2009 6:04:55 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: pnh102

“And then they move out to the burbs...”

Some of them no doubt. It would seem that it might cut down a little on gang activity since you don’t have hundreds of people crammed into a few buildings in the same area. There has been a big improvement in the neighborhoods where the projects were located from what I saw in Atlanta. You not only had the delapidated project buildings that were torn down, but nearby crack houses and shabby convenience stores that sold beer and cigarettes to the occupants also disappeared.


8 posted on 07/29/2009 6:07:33 AM PDT by Stevenc131
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To: Presley OBannon

And all this is going to do is encourage more sprawl and people move further away to get away from all that.


9 posted on 07/29/2009 6:07:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: from occupied ga
This is the equivalent of taking your garbage out of your garbage can and spreading it around your house.

I am sympathetic to your statement, but I believe in the long run this is the correct solution.

When I was growing up in the 1950's and 1960's the poor in America were integrated into normal blue collar neighborhoods. I know this from personal experience. The poor families were often dysfunctional. But the children of the poor families were exposed to the families of their "normal" neighbors. They were exposed to 2 parent households with working, non-addicted parents who attended Church on Sunday.

When we created the housing projects, we concentrated all of the dysfunctional families into one place, thus ensuring that the children of those families would never see a "normal" family. The result has been tragic.

There will be a painful transition, but eliminating low income housing should be our goal.

10 posted on 07/29/2009 6:11:29 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski (No good deed goes unpunished.)
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To: Presley OBannon
Truth is, the apartments were regularly trashed, plumbing and electric wires stripped, etc. The city was tired of having to completely renovate them every few years. So, they shut them down and spread the residents all over the county.

I can understand why public housing is necessary, but I think any tenant or occupant who does this to his/her unit should be banned from any public housing forever.

11 posted on 07/29/2009 6:16:21 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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That’s what’s happened here in VA Beach. Norfolk tore down most of it’s projects and they just transplanted out here. Rents are being subsidised in what once were nice apartment complexes but are now mini ghettoes with all the other social problems and criminal activity that goes with it. I knew we were in trouble when they started running the bus lines out my way.


12 posted on 07/29/2009 6:17:33 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

“When we created the housing projects, we concentrated all of the dysfunctional families into one place, thus ensuring that the children of those families would never see a “normal” family. The result has been tragic.

There will be a painful transition, but eliminating low income housing should be our goal.”

I agree.


13 posted on 07/29/2009 6:18:57 AM PDT by villagerjoel (1. Implement socialist policies 2. ??? 3. Heaven on earth)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

But the poor people of the 50’s and 60’s weren’t morally bankrupt thugs who refused to be weaned from the tit of society.
I know it’s not fair to judge so broadly, but those sort of broad generalizations do tend to keep one safe and secure.
I would prefer not to sacrifice my family at the altar of PoliticalCorrectness in the name of some social experiment.
I want my neighbors to be folks who work just as hard as I do...


14 posted on 07/29/2009 6:19:08 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: Presley OBannon

You must be talking about Gwinnett County Georgia.


And then they move out to the burbs...

The city we live near started this some years back. They held meeting after meeting wringing their hands over how the poor unfortunates who were living in the projects deserved the same quality of housing as other residents.

Truth is, the apartments were regularly trashed, plumbing and electric wires stripped, etc. The city was tired of having to completely renovate them every few years. So, they shut them down and spread the residents all over the county.

Now, instead of the residents trashing just the projects and having one trashy, nasty part of town, they have trashed subdivisions and apartment complexes throughout the county.

So the local governments use our tax money to subsidize rent for people to move from the projects into our neighborhoods where they trash their new homes and drive our property values down.

I guess that in a way the county government is on the way to achieving their goal - soon we will all be living in equal quality housing - trashed out ghettos.


15 posted on 07/29/2009 6:20:38 AM PDT by Dacula (Evil succeeds when good men do nothing. Lets do something.)
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To: Presley OBannon

Good post.

Welcome to FR


16 posted on 07/29/2009 6:24:02 AM PDT by Dacula (Evil succeeds when good men do nothing. Lets do something.)
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To: freed0misntfree

You think this is getting rid of crime in Atlanta? 4 carjackings this past weekend, home invasions, one man shot in the back in his bed........

Not a chance, and those that do head for the burbs continue to commit crimes there, sort of like when we emptied New Orleans. Actually a lot like that.


17 posted on 07/29/2009 6:28:24 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Senator_Blutarski
There will be a painful transition, but eliminating low income housing should be our goal.

There will be no "transition". The pseudo-tribal identity will be spread around the states. The small cities of Pennsylvania are a good example.

18 posted on 07/29/2009 6:29:30 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: Maverick68
I would prefer not to sacrifice my family at the altar of PoliticalCorrectness in the name of some social experiment.

Maverick, I don't disagree with your sentiment. But the real social experiment took place when we created the housing projects. Like I said, this will be painful. It is like lancing a boil. It hurts, but if we don't do it the infection will continue to spread.

What really needs to be done is to use this as a tool against liberal social experimentation. Let's hang this mess on the necks of the Democrats.

19 posted on 07/29/2009 6:32:55 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski (No good deed goes unpunished.)
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To: from occupied ga
This is the equivalent of taking your garbage out of your garbage can and spreading it around your house.

The city renovated an apartment building in my neighborhood for Section 8 housing. Crime, particularly vandalism, immediately went up. Now the predominant language spoken at the public park across the street is Spanish.

And the Section 8 housing is full of - you guessed it - ILLEGALS.

They infest a nearby shopping area parking lot with crowds of day laborers who fill the bus stop, harass women walking by, piss behind the buildings, etc.

The nearby mall which used to have upscale stores is now nearly dead, the few stores remaining catering to this wonderful crowd.

My thanks to the city for spreading the garbage.

20 posted on 07/29/2009 6:35:14 AM PDT by jimt
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