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If Obama is a "Christian" why burn Bibles?

If Obama is a "Christian" why not allow a GIFT that is LEGAL be given to the people there?

If Obama is a "Christian" why is the U.S. burning Bible that are LEGAL in Afganistan when they have Freedom of Religion under their laws and the Constitution the U.S. helped them draw up?

Should we allow Obama and atheists over rule what is legal in Afganistan and the U.S. ?

When is enough, ENOUGH?

How much more are you willing ot put up with?

1 posted on 07/30/2009 7:17:45 AM PDT by nmh
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To: nmh

If Barry Soetoro could get away with it, he burn your Bible too.


2 posted on 07/30/2009 7:21:38 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: nmh

We as a nation are dead.

We’ve allowed this creature to lead us and we will suffer the consequences for it.
His hypocracy doesn’t even matter anymore. The damage is done. Doesn’t matter if he lied and is doing what we suspected. He’s there. He’s leading us right down the toilet. Full throttle too.


3 posted on 07/30/2009 7:26:38 AM PDT by J40000
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To: nmh

A. I don’t believe this story;

B. We sent an army, not a bunch of missionaries;

C. I don’t believe this story.


4 posted on 07/30/2009 7:26:42 AM PDT by stormer
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To: nmh

Even if it were not legal to give these bibles out, there was no need to burn them. Burning them sure sends a clear message to the Afghanis and to American citizens where the heart of our so-called “Commander in Chief” lies.


5 posted on 07/30/2009 7:27:25 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: nmh

Obama’s election was made possible by millions of Christians or at least “Christians” who saw him as goodness and light, virtue and righteousness. Heaven help us.


7 posted on 07/30/2009 7:28:26 AM PDT by all the best
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To: nmh

“The Bibles had been printed in the local Pashto and Dari languages,...”

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe our country had an agreement not to proselytize the local people in Afghanistan while on their soil. We may not like it as Christians, but this sounds like exactley what this group was doing and hence the military probably was required to take the bibles out of circulation.


9 posted on 07/30/2009 7:28:36 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: nmh
Just asking, as maybe someone will know the answer, but how does one dispose of a Bible that is not intact anymore or is not allowed to be used (as in this case)?

I've heard that worn American flags are to be burned, as are the palms blessed at Easter and distributed to the parishioners/members. But what is the respectful means of disposing of worn or un-needed Bibles?

The one thing (maybe the only thing) I have learned about our military is the word “respect”. That's not to say they always live up to it or are shown it, but the stated goal is to “respect” authority. I somehow (knowing how much a part ethics and morality is stressed at OCS) suspect that this was not an un-researched method of disposing of the banned bibles.

I'm not going to comment on the proselytizing or the cause of the rejection of holy scripture, but rather the practical necessity of showing respect for the Divine Beatific Vision.

13 posted on 07/30/2009 7:34:22 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: nmh

My kind of Chaplian is found in Otto Sporrer. Part of his story is at http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,814487,00.html

Father Sporrer was awarded the Silver Star for his Chosin Reservoir actions. That fact comes from page 290 of the book “Chesty,” about Chesty Puller.


14 posted on 07/30/2009 7:35:16 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (The essence of evil lies in the irrational..)
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To: nmh
A Pentagon spokesman under the Obama Administration recently acknowledged and defended seizing and burning the privately owned Bibles of American soldiers serving in Afghanistan. The Bibles had been printed in the local Pashto and Dari languages, and sent by private donors last year (under the Bush Administration) to American Christian soldiers and chaplains, for distribution to American troops on overseas military bases during optionally-attended Christian worship services. Had the Bibles not been recently seized and destroyed (as verified and defended by the Obama Administration), they could have legally been given as gifts during off-duty time to Afghani citizens...

Ping for later

16 posted on 07/30/2009 7:40:56 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("I always longed for repose and quiet" - John Calvin)
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To: nmh

By the way, the guy that wrote this is the one who was booted from the navy for insubordination when he defied direct orders and participated in partisan political events in uniform. Military regulations have long forbidden this type of activity, and he knowingly disregarded that.

Captain Norm Holcomb, command chaplin NAS Norfolk, and this guy’s former boss said this:

“I was the dishonored ex-chaplain’s supervisor for the past 2 years. I found him to be totally untruthful, unethical and insubordinate. He was and is contemptuous of all authority. He was not court martialed for praying in Jesus’ name. I sent him out in uniform every week to pray at various ceremonies and functions. He always prayed in uniform and in Jesus’ name. He was never told that he could not pray in Jesus’ name. In fact, the issue of prayer had nothing at all to do with his dismissal from the Navy. He disobeyed the lawful order of a senior officer. I am sure that you understand that Navy Regulations forbid any of us, regardless of rank or position, to appear in uniform in support of any political or partisan event.”

“He appeared in direct support of a political event, demonstrating contempt for the order of his Commanding Officer and Naval Regulations that we all swear that we will abide by. The ex-chaplain is a man without honor and you have accepted his story and in doing so you have had ‘the wool pulled over your eyes.’”

“We have been relatively quiet regarding our ex-chaplain’s untruthfulness and lack of honor because we are embarrassed that one of our own could display such behavior in the name of our Lord. We wanted to spare all concerned the embarrassment associated with his dishonesty. However, it now seems that it would be wrong for those of us who know the truth to remain silent. I served with him and supervised him (as best as it was possible to supervise a person who refused to submit to lawful authority) and I know about his daily dishonesty and ‘spin’ of the truth.”

IOW, don’t believe anything that Klingenschmitt says.


17 posted on 07/30/2009 7:41:05 AM PDT by stormer
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To: nmh

We are a free society, they are a society of clans and tribes, who are totally indoctrinated by their religious leaders, who in many instances are their political leaders. Our business there is to stabilize the area and get their economy going. I can see where there may be some problems, with the “privately owned” bibles written in “Pushtu”. Our armed forces are not crusaders or evangelists, we are not there to build churches or introduce other religions, we are there to help combat the radicals and build an infrastructure. The last thing we want is to give them the impression that the military is there to convert them to Christianity. Want to distribute bibles in Pushtu use missionaries not soldiers.


19 posted on 07/30/2009 7:46:42 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (TR started the Bull Moose Party, maybe Palin can start the Moose Cow Party?)
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To: nmh
The Bibles had been printed in the local Pashto and Dari languages,

What BS, that is and was nothing more than an attempt to do back door missionary work. Not the duty of the united states military.

40 posted on 07/30/2009 8:18:18 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: nmh

“...privately owned Bibles of American soldiers serving in Afghanistan. The Bibles had been printed in the local Pashto and Dari languages...”

I doubt that even one in ten thousand American soldiers speak Pashto or Dari (unless specially trained for it), so the proselyting implication is verious obvious. Even so, I don’t see why they couldn’t just confiscate the bibles without burning them, it seems completely outrageous that they were burned (if it’s true).


45 posted on 07/30/2009 8:30:44 AM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: nmh

The rule being followed predates Obama.


48 posted on 07/30/2009 8:39:18 AM PDT by dmz
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To: nmh

The Bible is considered a “holy book” under Islamic teachings. Why would giving a Bible to a Muslim be a bad thing even from the viewpoint of the Muslim?


55 posted on 07/30/2009 12:55:44 PM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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