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To: Yardstick
No one is mad at the car owners and the dealerships. If the govt offers you $4500 to crush a $1000 car, it’s only rational to have it crushed.

What is the worth of the cars being traded in?

The problem is the government paying people to do this. Are you okay with the government using your tax dollar to subsidize other people’s car purchases? As a conservative you shouldn’t be.

No, the government is merely offering people the money. It's still up to the individual whether they choose to participate.

People like you don't seem to have a problem with George W. Bush putting programs into place during his first term that are sending billions of US tax dollars to Mexico. At least with this program, Americans are getting US tax dollars. (For the record, the program Bush put into place that sends US tax dollars to Mexico is still in place --it's called the Partnership for Prosperty Agreement)

This is nothing but a subtle leftist wealth redistribution program undertaken to accomplish certain political and social ends. It’s unprincipled, it distorts the market, it’s the Democrat-controlled government trying to look beneficent by handing out your tax dollars.

As opposed to overt conservative wealth redistribution that Republican-controlled government put into place to hand out US tax dollars to Mexican illegal aliens and changing the banking laws to allow them into the US banking system to obtain credit cards, home, auto and business loans?

Your instinct should have been to oppose this, too. But, I'll bet your finely-honed instincts didn't stop you from voting for Bush --twice, thus giving him the political cover to continue and expand his wealth-redistribution programs going into his second term.

But you’re angry at your brother-in-law who owns a junkyard and that’s got your mind all warped.

If my brother-in-law wants a piece of this pie, then perhaps he should offer me more than $250 for my $1000 car.

59 posted on 08/02/2009 9:25:34 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
What is the worth of the cars being traded in?

Something less than $4500 -- otherwise people wouldn't be trading them in.

No, the government is merely offering people the money. It's still up to the individual whether they choose to participate.

Yes, the government is offering your and my tax dollars to other individuals. This is true of all government wealth redistribution programs, which most conservatives oppose when they're thinking clearly.

At least with this program, Americans are getting US tax dollars.

The same could be said of a national healthcare program. Do you oppose that? It looks to me like you're okay with socialism as long as it has a patriotic flavor. There's a word for that you know.

As opposed to overt conservative wealth redistribution that Republican-controlled government put into place to hand out US tax dollars to Mexican illegal aliens and changing the banking laws to allow them into the US banking system to obtain credit cards, home, auto and business loans?

This argument does nothing to justify the Klunker program.

If my brother-in-law wants a piece of this pie, then perhaps he should offer me more than $250 for my $1000 car.

Your brother-in-law isn't the government, so unfortunately he doesn't have my tax dollars to offer you.

61 posted on 08/02/2009 9:44:23 AM PDT by Yardstick
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