Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link

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[Brown Deer]

I am referring to the internal dynamics of changing the transcript of one of the most famous [in hindsight] students at two major universities.

That's funny. I don't see her name anywhere on this page.

List_of_University_of_Washington_people

Most people in this country, if asked who Stanley Ann Dunham was, would have no clue.

and guess what? We still haven't seen any transcripts for her from the University of Hawaii, so what's been changed? Just another fantasy...

[Brown Deer]

All I said was that I do not know how Obama got his scars. I’m sorry if that excites you so much.

You also said that you don't know how Stanley Ann got enough credits for her degree, and want others to figure it out for you.

You also said that someone told you, that you are stupid and lazy. I don't know who told you that, but it sounds like at least one of those items might be true.

[Brown Deer]

and that one person seems to be your BFF

[Brown Deer]

more fiction?

[Fred Nerks]

UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGON - OFFICE OF PUBLIC RECORDS

Contacts Email: pubrec@uw.edu 206-543-9180 Fax: 206-616-6294

Eliza A. Saunders Director

Perry Tapper Compliance Officer

Barbara Lechtanski Compliance Officer

Chris Chau Compliance Analyst

Madolyne Lawson Program Coordinator

Maybe someone could ask her who supplied her with the details she e-mailed to Corsi? And how was the remainder, transcript etc...sent to Corsi? There's nothing on any of that material that has a signature. It's all too remeniscent of the 'document' the HDOH claims to be genuine, in langauge so carefully parsed one would need a gaggle of lawyers to decipher it.

I'll say one thing for the U of HI, at least they placed their reply on a letter head and signed it. So one day, when we find that the student who enrolled in the Fall of 1960 was Ann S Obama and NOT Stanley Ann Dunham, Stuart Lau, if he's still with us, can be asked to explain why he assumed the record applied to SAD, and not the ANN S OBAMA living in Honolulu.

Madolyne Lawson on the other hand could say, I never saw that before in my life.

A transcript from Hawaii would be nice...I imagine we would see something like OBAMA, ANN STANLEY. They would only have to add one name to make that work.

[Brown Deer]

Why do you believe that pedophiles would hang out on FR? That defies logic.

[Brown Deer]

Thanks for the reminder. The pile of corroborating evidence is very deep and beyond any doubt, my professional forensic opinion.

She was issued a second SSN, two years later in 1961? Sounds like fraud to me, in your "professional forensic opinion".

LINK?

[Seizethecarp]

“Why do you believe that pedophiles would hang out on FR? That defies logic.”

That was an analogy, not an accusation. The behavior of a certain troll relentlessly trying to lure sincere truth-seeking FReepers into his web of incoherent lies is LIKE the grooming behavior of pedophiles luring little children into seduction.

[Seizethecarp]

That Lawson e-mail letter in the comment I am replying to is a different one from the snail-mail letter published for the whole world and UW lawyers to see in Corsi’s book and which enclosed the Feb 2009 computer printout.

UW would have certainly sued Corsi for forging a Washington State document if it was not genuine as shown in his book, IMO.

[Brown Deer]

Notice that her degree is in Math, but so far we've seen zer0 evidence of any Math classes taken by her. Most college degrees require a certain minimum number of Math credits, but here she is a Math major, with absolutely no Math classes during her first two years of college.

[Brown Deer]

You would know?

[Fred Nerks]

...but here she is a Math major, with absolutely no Math classes during her first two years of college.

I think it's becoming clearer why that is...the one who had no math classes in the first two years of college was the one who attended the Russian Class at which she met the kenyan student...and the one who did attend math classes was probably at the university of Chicago, where her uncle was Deputy Director of the Library for something like 60 years.

So how did she get a phd in Social Anthropology? Maybe that had something to do with the masses of research material Maya and Alice Dewey said they found on discs in a dusty drawer. Alice was the 'Indonesianist' as she likes to call herself, she now lives in Indonesia permanently. She published a book with the title Marketing in Java...iirc, and SAD's book when it was being touted, bore the title Blacksmithing in Java. They then changed it to 'Surviving Against the Odds' - and Alice was the editor. The granddaughter of John Dewey was a very masculine woman and I have a sense she worshipped Stanley Ann Dunham.

I've written that off the cuff from memory. I'll add some links later and correct myself if necessary.

[Fred Nerks]

V.O.U.Y.E.R

[Fred Nerks]

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Sep/12/ln/hawaii809120379.html

EXCERPT:

SEPARATION AND DIVORCE

In the early 1970s, as her research and success in helping villages increased, Soetoro and Dunham split up — and eventually divorced in 1979.

“He got a job with Union Oil,” Dewey said. “Lolo joked that they got divorced because she was falling in love with Javanese handcrafts and he was becoming an American oil man, which wasn’t far from the truth.”

Maya and her mother returned to Honolulu in 1973 and, for three years, lived with Barack on Poki Street, just ‘ewa of Punahou School.

“My father did not live with us at that time,” Maya said. “They lived apart. They were still together and still wanted to make a go of the marriage.”

Dunham took young Maya back to Indonesia in 1976 to live with Soetoro’s mother, while Barack moved into his grandparents’ apartment on Beretania Street while he finished his high school years at Punahou.

“We spent summers with him, we spent winters with him and there were a lot of letters in between,” Maya said.

She, too, was homeschooled by Dunham until 1981, when Maya enrolled at the Jakarta International School and then, at age 14, returned in 1984 to enter Punahou.

“It was an extraordinary childhood,” Soetoro-Ng said. “She was such an interesting and vigorously intellectual woman. I owe everything to her example. Her life of service is something to which we should all aspire.”

Dewey later traveled with Dunham to the same village in Kenya where Obama’s father came from and — decades later — saw a video of Obama in the same village near a building that arranged micro loans.

Obama had arrived at the place where his mother had helped so many people years before.

“He followed in her footsteps and didn’t even know it,” Dewey said. “I know, because he certainly would have said something about it because his mother meant so much to him.”

It was a moment that brought Dewey full circle to the woman she had mentored and grew to admire — a woman whose work she believes could influence the course of U.S. policy.

“Sen. Obama often speaks of his mother’s dedication to helping people,” Dewey said. “How he was raised is part of how he will be as president.”

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[Fred Nerks]

Alice Dewey, PhD Professor Emeritus

B.A. (1950), M.A. (1955) and Ph.D. (1959) from Racliffe College, Harvard University.

I did my doctoral research in Java, Indonesia, in 1952-1954 and have been studying Javanese society ever since, with additional field work among the Maori of New Zealand (1959-60) and among the Javanese community in New Caldonia (1963-64).

I joined the anthropology faculty at the University of Hawai'i in 1963 and have been here ever since.

Research Interests: Economic Anthropology, especially markets; social structure; peasant societies; social change; kinship; Javanese culture.

Selected Writings: In preparation Traditional Powers for a Modern King: The Investiture of Sultan Hamengku Buwono X.

1993 Past Experiences and Problems in Implementing Programs in Poverty Alleviation. In A Review of Poverty Alleviation Efforts in Indonesia, with Michael Dove, N. Dwi Retnandari, and Loekman Soetrisno, for BAPPENAS, Indonesia, pp. 103-135.

1988 Competition, Reciprocity and the Olympic Games. In The Olympics and East/West and South/North Exchange, edited by Kang Shin-pyo, John MacAloon and Roberto DaMatto. The Institute for Ethnological Studies, Hanyang University, pp. 529-537.

1985 Boundary and Batik: A Study of Ambiguous Categories. In Cultural Values and Human Ecology in Southeast Asia, edited by Karl L. Hutterer, A. Terry Rambo and George Lovelace. Michigan Papers on South and Southeast Asia, No. 27, University of Michigan Press.

1970 Ritual as a Mechanism for Urban Adaptation. Man 5:438-448. 1962 Trade and Social Control. Journal of the Royal Anthropological Institute 92:177-190.

1962 Peasant Marketing in Java. N.Y.: Free Press.

source

[SvenMagnussen]

“Maya and her mother returned to Honolulu in 1973 and, for three years, lived with Barack on Poki Street, just ‘ewa of Punahou School.

“My father did not live with us at that time,” Maya said. “They lived apart. They were still together and still wanted to make a go of the marriage.”

Dunham took young Maya back to Indonesia in 1976 to live with Soetoro’s mother, while Barack moved into his grandparents’ apartment on Beretania Street while he finished his high school years at Punahou.”

If Obama was a U.S. citizen in 1973, then he would have been eligible to be named as a dependent on Lolo and SAD Soetoro’s 1973 tax return.

[Fantasywriter]

Thank you for that excellent work. I’m saving a copy of this post for future reference. Obama’s supporters claim Stanley Ann was not at UoWA in the fall of ‘61. This proves them wrong.

On a side note, it’s painful to observe which posters have never been to a four yr college/university. I’m trying to imagine the kind of conspiracy they cd work up from my transcripts. Oh good heavens! I didn’t take my first philosophy course until the summer *following* my sophomore yr! Oh noes; my transcript must be forged!

At UoHI, it’s not necessary to declare a major until the beginning of the junior yr. Same at many universities. Though I will say for the panic crowd that if SADO had majored in math at MIT she’d have had a lot more of it prior to the junior yr. But that’s why it’s MIT & other schools aren’t.

Come to think of it, does MIT even have a math major? I think they do; it’s called ‘physics’.

Just kidding. Of course MIT has a math major. It just gets less respect than physics.

Anyway, hate to break it to the fevered forgery crowd, but at UoHI freshmen & sophomore yrs are for general credits; the major doesn’t kick in until the junior yr. Fyi.

[Brown Deer]

Remember, that according to Stuart Lau, Registrar at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, Stanley Ann Dunham could have only taken these Math classes from the Spring of 1963 through the Summer of 1966 (a period of 11 total semesters, or 5-1/2 normal school years in addition to the two other years that has been claimed). Most of them must be taken sequentially. Supposedly she graduated high school in 1960, so it would have been 3 entire years without any mathematics, a subject which most students must review every fall after their summer break before continuing with their new studies. I think that can safely assume that the requirements for this degree were close to being the same today as they were 40-50 years ago.

Remember also, Stanley Ann Dunham was issued Passport No. F777788 by U.S. Department of State on July 19, 1965, 4 months after her marriage to Lolo Soetoro and one year before Lau states that she left the University. Note also that she was not awarded her degree until August 6, 1967. Why not? We also know that she traveled from Honolulu to Jarkarta just a couple months later in October. She took Barry with her and he did not begin the first grade until the following year in 1968.

Remember again the question to Greg was, "If the transcripts are fake, where & when did SADO earn enough credits for a BA from the UoHI?" Assuming she had a minimum 12 hour course load over 12 semesters (Lau also states that she attended the University in the Fall of 1960), that's at least 144 semester credits, more than enough for any undergraduate degree.

Also, the evidence presented from past interviews with her high school friends states that she only stopped in Seattle on the way to Boston.

Department of Mathematics, University of Hawaii at Manoa

Considering math as your major? That is perhaps what Stanley Ann Dunham is doing in this photo. Ms. Dunham received a BA in Mathematics from UH-Manoa in 1967.



Prerequisites:
•MATH 140: Precalculus (3) (Pre: two years of high school algebra, one year of plane geometry, and precalculus assessment)
•MATH 215: Applied Calculus I (4) (Pre: C or better in 140)

Required Undergraduate Lower Division courses for Math Major:
•MATH 241: Calculus I (4) (Pre: a grade of C or better in 140 or 215)
•MATH 242: Calculus II (4) (Pre: a grade of C or better in 241 or 251A or a grade of B or better in 215)
•MATH 243: Calculus III (3) (Pre: a grade of C or better in 242 or 252A)
•MATH 244: Calculus IV (3) (Pre: 243)

Bachelor of Arts requirements:
Students must complete 21 credit hours in mathematics courses numbered above 300, including:
•MATH 321: Introduction to Advanced Mathematics (3) (Pre: 243 or 253A)
•MATH 480: Senior Seminar (1) (Pre: One 400-level mathematics course)
•3 credit hours in a writing-intensive mathematics course
•6 credit hours in a sustained two-course sequence approved by the department
•6 credit hours in courses numbered above 400
•3 credit hours in a 400-level core course approved by the department

•The approved two-course sequences are Math 402-403, 407-408, 412-413, 414-416, 431-432, 454-455, and 471-472. Math 331-431 is an approved two-course sequence for BA majors only. Other two course sequences may be allowed on an individual basis if approved by the Associate Chair. The two courses must be closely related and numbered above 400. The sequence must be completed within one year, e.g., fall-spring or spring-fall or summer-spring.
•The approved core courses are Math 405, 411, 420, 421, 431, 443, 444, 454, 455, 471 and 475.
•Only two of Math 301, 371, and 373 may be counted toward major requirements. Only one of Math 307 and 311 may be counted toward major requirements.
•All required courses must be completed with a grade of C or better.
•A cumulative 2.0 GPA in completed upper division mathematics courses is required.

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So based on the letter from Lau, she should have easily completed her B.A. degree in Hawaii, but again why did it take another year after she stopped attending the University to receive her degree? There must be a reason for hiding the transcripts, and there is absolutely nothing in that letter from Stuart Lau that states she attended the University of Washington!

Why would anyone who claims to be so smart want to hide their transcripts?

[Brown Deer]

This proves them wrong.

LMAO, how so?

Anyway, hate to break it to the fevered forgery crowd, but at UoHI freshmen & sophomore yrs are for general credits; the major doesn’t kick in until the junior yr. Fyi.

Hate to break it to you, but obviously you've never attended a real university, otherwise you'd know that no matter what your major is, there is a minimum requirement in mathematics.

Come to think of it, does MIT even have a math major?

DUH! - I've been there before, you probably haven't. ;-)

[Brown Deer]

If Obama was a U.S. citizen in 1973, then he would have been eligible to be named as a dependent on Lolo and SAD Soetoro’s 1973 tax return.

but he wasn't named as a dependent on the Soetoro return and if his Dunham grandparents were providing more than half of his support, whether or not he was a U.S. citizen, he would have been eligible to be named as a dependent on their income tax returns.