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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

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To: gandalftb
Court documents for the divorce were release this spring...See Fred post 6660 for link. The missing pages were according to the lawyers on the thread ID information which would have included BO’s BC, the marriage papers etc.
I suspect the lawyers in the case have had that information in the possession since Spring, but didn't want BO to know until they were certain that the case would be heard, not dismissed for standing. Regardless, even those documents used in another case would need verified and chain of possession established.

That's what Orley did when she petitioned the court..ask that they be verified and CoP therefore be established. It's just a matter of time. No judge would turn such a request down.

6,721 posted on 08/04/2009 10:54:26 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Star Traveler
So I should now post the exchanges where you lied through your teeth and tried to twist your own words to support your deceits? ... Okay, since the thread had slowewd, I'll grant your wish, Liar:

Posting troll exposed

Careful now, Liar, there isn't anything in the post about Bible studies, so your usual misdirection won't work this time. ;^)

6,722 posted on 08/04/2009 10:55:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Spaulding

I posted the CURRENT applicable statute only to establish that is states clearly that if you’re born in the United States you are a citizen at birth.

Other parts of the statute have changed, yes, but they are not why I posted the statute.

The point is that because “natural born citizen” is never defined, we have to think about what it meant. No reputatable lawyer today believes that two parents are needed for a child born in the U.S.

And the statute itself tells us plainly.

After all, are you going to sit there and tell me that a citizen at birth is not a natural born citizen???? Of course not. That would be absurd. “Natural born” means BORN. Citizen at birth means BORN in the U.S. Citizen at birth = Natural born citizen.

The Supreme Court uses those terms interchangeably.

True, it has never ruled explicitly on the question, but you and I will be long dead before it ever does, if it does.


6,723 posted on 08/04/2009 10:55:57 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Windflier

I saw that WDN’s lead story tonight is what Freepers have been discussing for days, Stanley Ann’s incredible journey to Washington just a few weeks after giving birth, and going to school.

The smell of fishy is getting stronger.


6,724 posted on 08/04/2009 10:56:44 PM PDT by machogirl (If Obama's handing out Pie, I like Lemon Meringue.)
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To: outhousepatrol

He is a little boy who was abandoned by BOTH his mommy and his daddy, and he won’t stop punishing the world until he is made to stop.


6,725 posted on 08/04/2009 10:57:15 PM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Plutarch
No, WND is like Hawaii, they say they have these documents, but haven't shown them. Before the cock crows tomorrow, they had best have them posted, because the whole case rests right now on finding an example of a Republic document produced between Dec 1963 and Dec 1964.

From WND:

"WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical."

I wanted to ensure that I quoted WND precisely. Per that statement, they should have the ability to post photos of the comparison birth certificates to help shore up the authenticity case. The fact that they haven't doesn't look good to me. It's almost as if they're asking to have their bluff called. Not a smart thing to do, if you don't have the goods.

Now, in all fairness, it's not really the responsibility of this one website to provide the needed comparison data we need. Yes, we need it, but it can come from anyone who happens to have a Kenyan CCRB. There have to be hundreds of thousands of them floating around. Someone just needs to step forward with one.

6,726 posted on 08/04/2009 10:57:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MHGinTN

What, girls can’t tinkle in the tea or something, lol? I was briefly engaged to a nettle, right ouf of college. Strong as my attraction to her was, I dodged a bullet.


6,727 posted on 08/04/2009 10:57:41 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: MHGinTN

Yep... there you go again.... another Bible study in a birth certificate thread... LOL... Hey, I like Bible studies, but the three Constitutional requirements for office don’t quite work into it... :-)

But, going back to my Reagan years and involvement, I’ll give you something that you don’t hear much about (unless you were directly involved...)... something from an insider... and you wouldn’t find on the outside...


6,728 posted on 08/04/2009 10:59:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: sonic109
No , he’s being a realist. wishful thinking won’t make it so

Obama's water jug must be getting awful heavy by now. Why don't you put it down for a spell?

6,729 posted on 08/04/2009 11:00:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Oh really?

6,730 posted on 08/04/2009 11:00:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: rolling_stone

disrupting intentionally
***2 word definition of Troll

COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum. (Trolling 101)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2165967/posts
Friday, January 16, 2009 12:36:53 PM · by Sidebar Moderator · 237 replies · 5,997+ views
E-Mail and Freepers


6,731 posted on 08/04/2009 11:01:22 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: STARWISE
No, Neil Abercrombie is an older man, Congress Dem IIRC. Pal of Obama Sr. Visited Obama sr in Kenya years after Obama sr went back to Kenya...

Years later, Abercrombie and another grad school friend looked up their old pal during a trip through Africa.

...At that point, the senior Obama was a bitter man, according to the congressman, feeling that he had been denied due opportunities to influence the running of his country. "He was drinking too much; his frustration was apparent," Abercrombie said. To Abercrombie's surprise, Obama never asked about his ex-wife or his son.

SOURCE

here's the video of Abercrombie reading the Hospital fiasco letter...

video

6,732 posted on 08/04/2009 11:04:51 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: FreeAlaska32
I don't know where you got that idea. Read Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the constitution. Then, since the predictable response will be that the Naturalization Act of 1790 made someone one of whose parents was a citizen natural born, read the 1795 act which repeals the 1790 act. Then, if you search every piece of legislation in effect, you will find no reference to natural born citizen. Then, you may say natural born citizen is not defined in the constitution, as Patrick Leahy, Hillary, McGaskill, Obama and Chertoff (as an invited comment) did, while using the very Vattel definition to make McCain an honorary natural born citizen, and quiet the Republicans, who all knew, because he told them, the Obama’s father was a British citizen. Finally, you can read John Marshall, or John Jay, or Benjamin Franklin, or John Bingham telling us the definition, and with several of them, I'll note Marshall in the prevailing decision in The Venus, 1814, that the most concise formulation, the one used by the USSC, is Vattel’s and he quotes it. It was the common law in effect at the time the constitution was written, and for ever after - never amended. The mother, even if she were 35, couldn't confer natural born citizenship without the father too being a citizen. You are either confused, or attempting to confuse.
6,733 posted on 08/04/2009 11:05:00 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: MHGinTN

Now you’re being cagey. I’m putting away the popcorn.


6,734 posted on 08/04/2009 11:05:36 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Kevmo

Well, at least I stick on topic with the birth certificate issue and how to get the birth certificate shown to the public...

Except, of course, when other posters want to veer off into alternate territory... and then I happily converse with them... You still haven’t figured that one out yet... LOL...

The threads only get long with me when people want to converse with me about all sorts of other things that they like to talk about... otherwise, I would simply stick to the birth certificate... :-)


6,735 posted on 08/04/2009 11:05:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Kevmo

See # 6722 above, if you haven’t already.


6,736 posted on 08/04/2009 11:07:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Just as well, not good for my diverticuli


6,737 posted on 08/04/2009 11:08:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Fred Nerks

You’re right, of course ... I’m still exhaused
from the all nighter ... whew ...sry.


6,738 posted on 08/04/2009 11:08:39 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Star Traveler

Bloody name droppers. Any time you see someone tooting their own horn......it’s a pile of doo-doo. Go pedal that at KOS.


6,739 posted on 08/04/2009 11:09:19 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: MHGinTN

Wouldn’t that relate to post #6731... under the misdirection clause... LOL...

Getting into a Bible study sure seems like off-topic to me... as opposed to talking about birth certificate issues... :-)


6,740 posted on 08/04/2009 11:10:15 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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