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Assisted suicide: Whose life is it anyway?
London Times ^ | 8/2/09 | Bryan Appleyard

Posted on 08/02/2009 11:13:32 AM PDT by wagglebee

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21 posted on 08/02/2009 12:53:41 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: OpeEdMunkey
Then again there is that whole annoying free will thing.

And there doesn't seem to be much debate about those who commit unassisted suicide.

So maybe the state should just butt out of decisions that my doctor and I make.

God's gift of free will DOES NOT mean that there are no consequences and it certainly does not mean that suicide is not a sin.

Have you actually considered the ramifications of removing government oversight from the medical profession? Because that is what you are suggesting.

22 posted on 08/02/2009 1:00:14 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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When I was a trauma/ critical care nurse, I thought everyone should have DNR tattooed on their chests. When you see people away from the context of their loved ones and familiar surroundings, you don’t see quality of life.I now work with mentally and physically challenged adults out in the community and my opinion has changed. Their lives may not be like ours, but they are loved and able to love in return. That is quality of life. With proper and ADEQUATE pain management terminally ill patients can enjoy quality of life. There is no need to kill them. That’s not to say that when all else has failed,comfort care is not in order. If a miracle is going to happen, God will do it with or without the EXTREME measures used to prololng life.


23 posted on 08/02/2009 1:12:40 PM PDT by copwife (All God's creatures have a place in the choir!)
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To: mlizzy

Anyone that excited about other people’s deaths shouldn’t wear a scarf like that. It could get caught in something, like a door or a fist.


24 posted on 08/02/2009 1:33:34 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Damn the naysayers. Full speed ahead. ~ Þ)
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To: wagglebee
Please Pray for the Unborn
 
Pray for an end of euthanasia and a conversion of America to a culture of life!
 
 

25 posted on 08/02/2009 6:27:34 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: wagglebee
Have you actually considered the ramifications of increasing government oversight of the medical profession?

Because that is what Obama is suggesting.

And when it comes to suicide or assisting suicide as a sin, that's really in God's bailiwick, not man's.

Ever thought about how ridiculous it is for suicide to be illegal? There's really not much you can do to punish a corpse. The only reason it's illegal is to give insurance companies a solid footing for their not paying out on a suicide's life insurance policy.

26 posted on 08/03/2009 11:09:48 AM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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Have you actually considered the ramifications of increasing government oversight of the medical profession?

Because that is what Obama is suggesting.

You seem to have reached the conclusion that since more oversight is bad, that less must be good. This is INCORRECT.

So I will ask again, have you even considered what will happen if government oversight of medical care is eliminated?

And when it comes to suicide or assisting suicide as a sin, that's really in God's bailiwick, not man's.

He has already spoken on that issue, "Thou shalt not kill."

Ever thought about how ridiculous it is for suicide to be illegal? There's really not much you can do to punish a corpse. The only reason it's illegal is to give insurance companies a solid footing for their not paying out on a suicide's life insurance policy.

I'm sure that's the culture of death's latest talking point. However, suicide was a crime thousands of years before life insurance even existed. Moreover, insurance companies DO pay off on suicide if the policy is old enough.

27 posted on 08/03/2009 5:18:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I dunno. In another thread that you started you seem to be arguing against increased government oversight. You know the one. Government rationing...Terry Schiavo...culture of death...all that. So, do you want more government intervention or less?

On the upside you do make great use of upper case letters.

And again, sin and punishment thereof is God’s business. Not yours, unless you’re a priest, and certainly not the government’s.

Sure. Suicide is a crime if you happen to take someone out with you. Or maybe it’s akin to littering if you decide to jump off of a building - and someone has to mop you up.

Other than that it’s between me and God. Not me, God, and the state. And certainly not me, God, and you.

You’d be hard pressed to find a life insurance policy that pays out if the life is ended by suicide. I’ve been reading a lot of them lately. In fact there are some that don’t pay out if you buy it while committing a crime.


28 posted on 08/04/2009 2:32:00 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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