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Kenyan Birth Certificate - 1964 Divorce Timeline
Free Republic ^ | 8-2-09 | BP2

Posted on 08/02/2009 12:58:22 PM PDT by BP2

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To: MamaTexan; LucyT; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; ...

I like your line of research. I'm still digging too, but I certain think there's more to this by looking at Kenyan history in late-1963 to early-1964.

I think this small area of what is now part of "Coast Province" in emerging Kenya where Obama may have been born -- known as the "10-mile coastal strip" -- was calling itself a REPUBLIC before the rest of the country. As the remains of the British Protectorate were being carved up, this area wanted to ensure they would NOT be parceled to Zanzibar. Land disputes still exist there today over this.

THIS from Kenya: Revisiting Ten-Mile Strip Controversy:

This was not to be. Then acting Prime Minister, Mzee Jomo Kenyatta, the British government and the Sultan of Zanzibar declined to grant the strip autonomy.

In a letter dated October 5, 1963, Kenyatta bound his government to some undertaking in recognition of the coastal strip.

“I have the honour to refer to the discussions held between our respective governments on the subject of the coastal strip and to place on record the following undertakings by the Government of Kenya,” reads the letter to the prime minister of Zanzibar.

His note further reads: “The free hold titles to land in Coast region that are already registered will at all times be recognised. Steps will be taken to ensure the continuation procedure for the registration of new free hold titles and the rights of free holders will at all times be preserved”.

The letter was used as a legal instrument binding the Government to respect the status quo of land prior to independence.

As revealed by a report prepared by Robertson dated November 23, 1961, some people were advocating for an independent Coastal State before independence: “I recommend that if any system of regional or county administration is set up in Kenya, the Coast Province of Kenya should be one of the counties.”

In 1964, Kenyatta used his office to send signals to the international community that Kenya might renege on some commitments made before independence.

In his note reference “EXT 237/003A of March 25, 1964”, addressed to the Secretary General of the United Nations, Kenyatta informed the United Nations of his Government’s intention to review all pre-independence treaties and agreements and determine which of the pacts would be honoured, abrogated or modified after appropriate notice to interested parties.

Tracing the historical perspective of the land issue, the former CKRC commissioner, writes: “In 1895, the Sultan gave the British power to administer the ten-mile coastal strip subject to their respecting the existing Kadhi’s Courts, among other conditions. The British did so and declared a protectorate over the Coast while the rest of Kenya was a colony proper. The Sultan, however, retained sovereignty over the ten-mile Coastal Strip. During the last years of the independence struggle and at the start of the Lancaster House Constitutional talks in 1961, the status and fate of the coastal strip came up for determination.”

161 posted on 08/02/2009 3:44:20 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: mojitojoe
I agree. I have been following this conundrum all day and it is addictive. In a day or so we may be closer to the truth!
162 posted on 08/02/2009 3:44:42 PM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: PowerPro

Why would they release it now, until they had proof of it being authentic


163 posted on 08/02/2009 3:44:44 PM PDT by mel
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To: BP2

Since a child was an issue in the divorce proceedings, it is quite likely that a certificate was required to verify that fact. If that is the case, a copy of the certificate should have been made a part of the official file and should still be available. Since divorce records are public information, a request for the full file, including all supporting documents, might be very interesting. (That is a possible source of the document now at issue.)

Would it not be poetic justice to see one whose national political accent began with release of an opponent’s divorce records brought down by his mother’s divorce records?


164 posted on 08/02/2009 3:48:24 PM PDT by etcb
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To: mojitojoe

Here’s the WND thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306503/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2306540/posts [dup that was locked]


165 posted on 08/02/2009 3:48:47 PM PDT by deport
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To: BP2
Great work! I enlarged and enhanced a little.

The issue is, that ultimately this thing needs to be produced physically for 3rd party profession examination...just like Obama's alleged Hawaiin Long Form needs to.


166 posted on 08/02/2009 3:55:05 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: BP2
Yep, the dates sure do line up and that's a fine piece of detective work on your part.

However as I see it, there's still a few hurdles to overcome. They are:


167 posted on 08/02/2009 3:59:11 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

My friend has a Keitt mango tree still producing. I’ve seen sites bragging that mango is the most widely eaten fruit in the world


168 posted on 08/02/2009 4:05:39 PM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: usconservative

Correction:

Somehow your theory that Dunham and her attorney George Kerr obtained a DELAYED Certificate of Live Birth then had it converted to a COLB needs to be validated. Whether Kerr can do that (if he’s still alive) or there are artifacts left in the Hawaiian records that would show it happening, this part of the theory needs to be ‘tightened up.’


169 posted on 08/02/2009 4:05:50 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: savage woman
>"Just curious, why is this photographed on this orange tablecloth???
Who did the photography??"

I'm not sure there is a reason to the color, other than it reflects the orange wavelength of visible light.
Twern't me. That's for sure.


I'm not Not Sure.


170 posted on 08/02/2009 4:16:04 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Ifanationexpects tobe ignorantandfree,inastateofcivilization,itexpects whatneverwas andnever will be)
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To: mojitojoe
I'll say this about this new document.

I have my doubts as to its authenticity only because of the fonts that are used on the form, they look too modern to me for the time it was issued.

This document though looks just as authentic if not more so than the one that is being touted by the left as the real deal from Hawaii so the net effect of this illustrates that the Hawaiian certificate cannot be accepted as being the end of us birthers and absolute proof of zer0's eligibility status

If this does indeed turn out to be a fraud it certainly has served the purpose to hopefully bring more attention to the matter and why it is absolutely necessary for zer0 to come clean with the long form

If it is indeed real, well then things are going to get really interesting very fast

171 posted on 08/02/2009 4:23:44 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: mc5cents

CIA anyone?


172 posted on 08/02/2009 4:30:08 PM PDT by machogirl (If Obama's handing out Pie, I like Lemon Meringue.)
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To: BP2; Protect the Bill of Rights

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7176683.stm

Odinga says Obama is his cousin

http://www.answers.com/topic/ajuma-jaramogi-oginga-odinga

Kenya gained independence in December 1963, and Kenyatta, a member of the Kikuyu, Kenya’s largest ethnic group, became president. Odinga, a leader of the second largest ethnic group, the Luo, was appointed minister for home affairs in 1963, and in 1964 he became vice-president. Kenya became a de facto one-party state that year when KADU merged with KANU.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaramogi_Oginga_Odinga

In 1960, together with Tom Mboya he formed Kenya African National Union (KANU). When Kenya became an independent Republic in 1964, he was its first Vice-President.

http://www.janda.org/ICPP/ICPP2000/Countries/9-CentralEastAfrica/96-Kenya/96-Kenya63-00.htm

In 1959 Mboya organized the Airlift Africa project, together with the African-American Students Foundation in the United States, through which 81 Kenyan students were flown to the U.S. to study at U.S. universities. One of them was Barack Obama’s father

http://www.answers.com/topic/thomas-joseph-mboya#cite_note-0

In 1959 Mboya organized the Airlift Africa project, together with the African-American Students Foundation in the United States, through which 81 Kenyan students were flown to the U.S. to study at U.S. universities. One of them was Barack Obama’s father. In 1960 the Kennedy brothers joined this project, after Mboya visited them for that purpose, and Airlift Africa was extended to Uganda, Tanganyika and Zanzibar (now Tanzania), Northern Rhodesia (now Zambia), Southern Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe), and Nyasaland (now Malawi). Some 230 African students received scholarships to study at Class I accredited colleges in the United States. [3]

(snip)

After Kenya’s independence in 1963, Mboya was elected as an MP for Nairobi Central Constituency (today: Kamukunji Constituency)[4] and became Minister of Justice and Constitutional Affairs, and later Minister for Economic Planning and Development.

(snip)

Mboya’s role in Kenya’s politics and transformation is the subject of increasing interest, especially with the coming into scene of American politician Barack Obama, Jr. Obama’s father, Barack Obama, Sr., was a US-educated Kenyan who benefited from Mboya’s scholarship programme in the 60’s, and married during his stay there, siring the Illinois Senator and President. Obama Sr. had seen Mboya shortly before the assassination, and testified at the ensuing trial. Obama Sr. believed he was later targeted in a hit-and-run incident as a result of this testimony.[8]

http://www.david-kilgour.com/2008/May_26_2008_05.htm

Tug of War

Courtesy Time Magazine Dec. 14, 1959


173 posted on 08/02/2009 4:30:15 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Smart to get the divorce, anyway, so that Ann could not have been charged with bigamy.

I understand your point, but I have a hard time believing that any attorney would ever advise NOT to file for divorce based on the first marriage not being valid.


174 posted on 08/02/2009 4:34:34 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I remember your mango post (or email) to me sometime ago. Had to ask.............. mango smoothies, yum, grilled mango, mango salsa


175 posted on 08/02/2009 4:39:18 PM PDT by machogirl (If Obama's handing out Pie, I like Lemon Meringue.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I know this is great news....it does look like the
fabric from another country...


176 posted on 08/02/2009 4:43:18 PM PDT by savage woman
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To: BP2; All
Anyone catch the irony of the divorce date?

January 20th, 1964 is INAUGURATION DAY!!!!

177 posted on 08/02/2009 4:43:26 PM PDT by politicalmerc
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To: sonic109
WND beats the heck out of the Huffington Post, DU, or KOS.
178 posted on 08/02/2009 4:51:41 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: anyone

went on the “exploringkenya.com (flag image) there is a blurb about the flag.

It states: “Facts about Kenya

Kenya’s abundant resources, wildlife, Cultural Diversity and relative political stability have helped establish Kenya as model of an African country in the Western mind. Republic of Kenya 1963.”

Not that this means anything.


179 posted on 08/02/2009 4:53:15 PM PDT by machogirl (If Obama's handing out Pie, I like Lemon Meringue.)
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To: Porterville

Ive been saying that since this morning. The left will float dozens of these “documents” before the year is out. It makes us look like idiots every time people start drooling that we HAVE THE PROOF , THIS IS THE BIG ONE.!
I doubt that at this point anyone will ever find the definitive proof that Marxist Obama is not eligible to be president
( outside of the fact that he’s a Marxist bastard )


180 posted on 08/02/2009 4:56:52 PM PDT by sonic109
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