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To: BP2

You, with all due respect, are delusional.

The judge settles disputes. If the plaintiff asks for custody and the respondent does not contest, then the plaintiff will get custody. If the plaintiff asks for child support and there is no argument against posed by the respondent, the the plaintiff is awarded child support (as calculated by the court per financial filing on both sides). No disputes, no need for the court to invent one.

It is common for a man to pay support for children that are not his, only because he supported the children during the marriage (this subject has been discussed extensively on this forum).

Birth certificates are not evidence of paternity. Often a man is named as a father without his knowledge or consent. The court would not use a birth certificate for this purpose.


250 posted on 08/03/2009 1:38:24 PM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: awake-n-angry; mojitojoe; LucyT; pissant; Red Steel
Use your imagination, put yourself back to early-1964, and pretend you're Judge King:

— three-year-old Obama JR wasn't probably present in the court room of the CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIRST JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, now defunct. Ann Dunman, his mother, may have shown a picture to the judge. Or Obama JR may have been present, and the judge saw the child — who knows?

— the man who Ann claimed was the father, Obama SR, didn't respond to the notification back in Boston — a no-show.

— Marriage Certificate? ALL modern searches by private investigators have NOT revealed it. It may exist, but then again — who knows? The judge may not have asked to see that anyway — which is not necessary per se to award custody. Blood is thicker than water, anyway ... but someone has to get custody of the child, biological parents, relatives or the state of Hawaii...

— there's no DNA testing in the 1960s.

— child smuggling DID take place.

And here's Ann, a lily-white 21-year-old woman from Kansas, asking for custody of a “mulatto” mixed-race baby that she claims to be hers. To put it in context: Black people only made up 0.8 percent of the Hawaiian population in the 1960s, so Judge King may have been suspicious — I'd be wondering what's going on here.

SO how's Judge King going to award custody — off of Ann's good word? Don't think so ... I can hear his words now:

I'm going to ask for the mother to provide a copy of the birth certificate at our next hearing. So ordered.”

Again, do your homework. Start here:

Here’s the HAWAI‘I FAMILY COURT RULES:
http://www.state.hi.us/jud/ctrules/hfcr.htm

And keep in mind that Hawaiian law in the 1960s, especially in this old Circuit Court that dates back to when Hawaii had a king, didn't have such firm laws in place as we have today. Judges had more discretion in those years shortly after statehood -- and Judge King, who went on to be a Senior Judge at the US District Court in District of Hawaii -- most likely exercised that discretion.

Again -- do your homework, troll.

252 posted on 08/03/2009 2:44:38 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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