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To: dools007

You wrote:

In any case, I guess it can be intuited from your comment that a dual-citizenship person (one of them being native born American) who renounces the non-US citizenship is qualified to run for president.

Sorry, the answer is no, absolutely not. At the time the Constitution was written, the international community generally did not recognize the existence of a dual citizenship or multiple nationality as sometimes exists in today’s international affairs. The belief and practice at the time was that a person could have one and only one sovereign at a time.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain went two steps further in the early 18th Century and firstly claimed sovereignty over and the allegiance of every person born withn the Dominions of its Sovereign, without any regard to the citizenship of the person’s birth parents. Secondly, the person born in the Dominions of the British Sovereign was then forbidden the right to renounce, revoke, or in any other respect expatriate from Britain throughout their lifetime, with the threat of punishment for Treason against the Crown. This British common-law was in conflict with the laws and customs of the other nations in the international community, and it often led to legal and armed conflicts. The War of 1812 was in major part due to the conflict over Britain’s extraordinary claims of sovereignty and citizenship.

Alexander Hamilton’s recommendation to use language making any U.S. Citizen eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief and President of the United States was rejected by the other Founding Fathers because of the dangers inherent in having a foreign sovereign invoke a person’s natural born allegiance to that sovereign, even though the person had genuinely or deceptively expatriated, naturalized, or otherwise been born in some circumstance with a natural born allegiance to a foreign sovereign. The intent, purpose, and objective of the clause was to deny the office to any person who could possibly have any allegiance to a foreign sovereign, whether voluntary or involuntary on the part of the person involved.

Dual citizenship and multiple citizenship as it has developed since the Constituton and clause were written has only increased the opportunities and dangers for a person to have their allegiance to the United States of America voluntarily or involuntarily compromised. In an era where David Rockefellar and others in the Democratic Party and Republican Party are advocating or in sympathy with subjecting the Sovereignty of the Citizens of the United States to the sovereign powers of a superior one world government, the issue and conflict over allegiance and sovereignty is no less and may be even more important than when the Founding Fathers incorporated the natural born citizen clause into the Constitution.


1,133 posted on 08/04/2009 5:17:48 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

WhiskeyX—Thanks again for your thoughtful response. You seem to be in full charge of your subject. It’s refreshing to have a conversation with folks like yourself.


1,136 posted on 08/05/2009 4:52:05 AM PDT by dools007
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