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David Bomford "birth certificate" removed from genealogy website
Bomford.net ^ | 8/3/09 | Website

Posted on 08/03/2009 9:54:54 PM PDT by FTJM

Certificate taken down and information inserted into family tree with link to article:

"10d I0543 David Jeffrey Bomford, b 10 April 1959 at Adelaide, m 28 Nov 1981 at Somerton Park, South Australia I0546 Amanda Jane Sandover, b 1959, and had issue [an image of David's birth certificate has been removed from the website temporarily as at 4 August 2009 as the site has a limited download capacity. See http://washingtonindependent.com/53658/is-this-the-source-of-the-forged-kenyan-birth-certificate]"


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1 posted on 08/03/2009 9:54:54 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: FTJM

Broken Link!


2 posted on 08/03/2009 9:57:13 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: FTJM

Ha Ha. Now the entire server has crashed.


3 posted on 08/03/2009 9:58:42 PM PDT by ponygirl (Libs advocate killing in the womb and then lecture me on the moral failures of Capitalism.)
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To: SoConPubbie

It worked a minute ago. Damn.


4 posted on 08/03/2009 9:59:03 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: FTJM

I saved it today.


5 posted on 08/03/2009 9:59:28 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I did too.


6 posted on 08/03/2009 10:01:33 PM PDT by alicewonders (Sarah Palin is the face of America's future.)
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To: FTJM

Pretty good image. Roughly 1200x1700 pixels at 150dpi .jpg

Some folks did good research on this one. Again. Digital photos are hard to fake and withstand serious analysis.


7 posted on 08/03/2009 10:04:02 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: FTJM

All 0bambi BCs are fake. Dude’s a Borg.


8 posted on 08/03/2009 10:05:23 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: FTJM

The document Orly has wasn’t forged. She has had it authenticated once already.

The Bomford document has been used to sucker all of you.

Shame for being so stupid.


9 posted on 08/03/2009 10:06:04 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Paladin2

“All 0bambi BCs are fake”

POST OF THE NIGHT!!

ROTFLOL!!


10 posted on 08/03/2009 10:06:33 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: SatinDoll

Strange. The website supposedly hasn’t been update since 2006 and all of the sudden it gets updated with a link to a biased article.


11 posted on 08/03/2009 10:13:03 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: Texas Fossil

It’s got a header on it indicating it was touched at least once by an image editing program called LEADTOOLS


12 posted on 08/03/2009 10:13:21 PM PDT by djf (The "racism" spiel is a crutch, those who unashamedly lean on it, cripples!)
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To: FTJM

The people behind Obama have no sense of dignity or honor.

They will do anything, ANYTHING - to hang on to power.


13 posted on 08/03/2009 10:16:31 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SatinDoll
The document Orly has wasn’t forged. She has had it authenticated once already.

The Bomford document has been used to sucker all of you.

Shame for being so stupid.

So wait. You're saying the Bomford document is derived from the Orly document?

Possible, I suppose.

14 posted on 08/03/2009 10:17:42 PM PDT by mc6809e
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To: mc6809e

No. I think it was used as a red herring. Do you know what that is?


15 posted on 08/03/2009 10:20:15 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SatinDoll

It might be the other way around


16 posted on 08/03/2009 10:20:23 PM PDT by woofie
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To: SatinDoll

I thought Orly was on her way to London right now to get that authenticated. Is this not correct?


17 posted on 08/03/2009 10:21:47 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: SatinDoll

Ok I mis understood you ...sorry ...do we have anything definitive yet?


18 posted on 08/03/2009 10:22:58 PM PDT by woofie
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To: djf

I had never heard of LeadTools.

Most of my image formatting is done with Gimp. I have come to prefer it to Creative Suite, because of the Adobe software bloat. And all the browser hijackings that it installs. Hate that.

I do my image batch processing with ImageMagick. Wonderful program, very powerful and very fast. Command line.

I have not opened this image to look at the image data. I have the tools but did not bother.

You can easily remove the image data trail from .jpg format images. I use jhead.exe to remove most of that on my images.

The main image file that I maintain is for 37,000 items. That takes a while to batch process, even with command line tools. The original conversion for our website took way into the night to finish.


19 posted on 08/03/2009 10:26:44 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: woofie

Woofie - just like you I was all over the original thread Sunday morning 1:30am - 10:00am for me. We both know what the original looked like.

The date on the “red herring” derived from the Bomford Family geneological online site has a date of today/tomorrow (it is Australia, after all!).

There was a reason Orly’s blog was being hacked to death. Now we know why. The people who did this have no decency.

Orly will get the numbers - book & page numbers - verified in London, hopefully. Obama has pissed off a great number of people who would normally be allies, like the British. He shouldn’t expect any support from them. After all, Michelle thumped the Queen on her back, a major faux pas! The Brits love their Queen.


20 posted on 08/03/2009 10:27:43 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Aria

I don’t think so.


21 posted on 08/03/2009 10:36:00 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: SatinDoll; Fred Nerks; BP2; pissant; bushpilot1

Check out SatinDoll’s comment.


22 posted on 08/03/2009 10:45:52 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: FTJM
It's simple.

The site is cheaply hosted and exceeded its bandwidth limit.

Now why would that have happened?

23 posted on 08/03/2009 10:51:38 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Texas Fossil
I had never heard of LeadTools.

LEADTOOLS is ancient Windows image manipulation software.

24 posted on 08/03/2009 10:55:14 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

The site allegedly hasn’t been touched by its admins in 2+ years but they monitor it daily?


25 posted on 08/03/2009 10:56:07 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: SatinDoll

Have pinged you to another thread that will give you a BIG smile....


26 posted on 08/03/2009 10:56:26 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: FTJM
The site allegedly hasn’t been touched by its admins in 2+ years but they monitor it daily?

They don't need to. The ISP where they host it does. Automatically. And they didn't spring for the premium account, not expecting to tangle with Birferstan.

27 posted on 08/03/2009 10:58:25 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: FTJM

I have a place I post ‘cause I know the trolls are there...I told them we knew it was a fake and we knew who faked it. Didn’t take long for them to pull it.


28 posted on 08/03/2009 10:59:11 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: cynwoody
They don't need to. The ISP where they host it does. Automatically. And they didn't spring for the premium account, not expecting to tangle with Birferstan.

Normally, the ISP would just shut it down for the time being. Notice the server is still crashing. That was a real quick turnaround for the ISP to contact the site admins who haven't touched it in 2+ years and who removed the pic then inserted a blurb into the family tree with a link to a biased site, with no comment on the front page...hmmmm.

29 posted on 08/03/2009 11:06:19 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: SatinDoll

This has been a wild wild ride.... I sure hope you are right.....I looked at Technical Editors posting history (he had the story that he stumbled across the Bomford pic)

Its pretty suspect ..joins in 04 posts a little then disapears till 08 posts a lot of threads no comments ..then emerges in 09


30 posted on 08/03/2009 11:08:14 PM PDT by woofie
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To: shield; SatinDoll

Post your comment finds to Satin Doll here...(They’re what I wanted you to see that would make you smile.)


31 posted on 08/03/2009 11:10:01 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: woofie

It’s definitely strange. Either someone set Orly up or the Aussie doc is fake.


32 posted on 08/03/2009 11:11:53 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: hoosiermama; SatinDoll
Is this what you were asking for?

Comment Section:

Carl says: “I can’t identify myself here because I’d lose my job. I’m a low level employee of the US State Department attached to the Overseas Service and I just finished a conference call with two lawyers in London and two journalists from Politico.com who all stated that they just left a late meeting at the London Foreign Office and they were assured that “The Kenyan birth certificate is without question, 100% authentic.” I’m not surprised.”

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kitau says: “I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya. I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put on by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the “copy” of the original was ordered. I stress the word “copy.” My copy also has republic of Kenya.” August 3, 9:04 PM

33 posted on 08/03/2009 11:25:46 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: FTJM
Normally, the ISP would just shut it down for the time being.

I would imagine that's the extent of what they've done. The site will remain unavailable until the billing cycle resets, the owners pony up for premium hosting, or the ISP decides (after manual review) to make an exception to their usual policy.

That was a real quick turnaround for the ISP to contact the site admins who haven't touched it in 2+ years and who removed the pic then inserted a blurb into the family tree with a link to a biased site, with no comment on the front page...hmmmm.

Of course it is. The ISP managers didn't need to do anything. Their server did what it was programmed to do. There was no need to contact the site owners. In fact, even the ISP sysadmins probably don't know about it yet. They'll find out when the owners complain or they review their logs and wonder about the traffic spike. LOL!

If you go to the front door, the message is unambiguous. As is the page title ("Suspended Domain"). Duh!!!

34 posted on 08/03/2009 11:26:12 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: shield; hoosiermama

Ah, yes! Very nice. I just hope everything is copacetic and Orly comes through all this safe.

I fell terrible about what happended to the Bromford Family’s geneological site. Just like tearing up a gravesite, it was desecrated by Obots.

Those Obama supporters, like Obama himself, have no honor - none.


35 posted on 08/03/2009 11:34:37 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: cynwoody

So the ISP managers (not the site admins who haven’t updated the site in 2+ years) left the site up, left the main page alone, edited the family tree buried deep on only one page, removed the pic, inserted a blurb and a link to a biased website and then suspended the account because it was a premium account? Yeah, that makes all the sense in the world...seriously.


36 posted on 08/03/2009 11:37:58 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: cynwoody
So the ISP managers (not the site admins who haven’t updated the site in 2+ years) left the site up, left the main page alone, edited the family tree buried deep on only one page, removed the pic, inserted a blurb and a link to a biased website and then suspended the account because it "wasn't" a premium account? Yeah, that makes all the sense in the world...seriously.

You do realize the "front door" and entire site were fully functional when I created this thread don't you?

37 posted on 08/03/2009 11:40:35 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: FTJM
inserted a blurb and a link to a biased website

Biased website? When I go to the original site of the image (http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/images/DavidJeffreyBomfordBirthCertDoc65.jpg), I get a 404 response. Totally unbiased (except in favor of the ISP's bottom line), although it does fall below average in informativity. When I go to front door (http://www.bomford.net/), it's immediately obvious to anyone with any experience getting websites hosted on the cheap that they exceeded their bandwidth.

And of course, we know why, don't we?

38 posted on 08/03/2009 11:49:24 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
Biased website? When I go to the original site of the image (http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/images/DavidJeffreyBomfordBirthCertDoc65.jpg), I get a 404 response. Totally unbiased (except in favor of the ISP's bottom line), although it does fall below average in informativity. When I go to front door (http://www.bomford.net/), it's immediately obvious to anyone with any experience getting websites hosted on the cheap that they exceeded their bandwidth.

And of course, we know why, don't we?

Are you paying attention at all? The link, which was inserted deep in the family tree on one of the site pages and occurred before before the account was suspended, was to the Washington Independent, a biased US website, as referenced in my OP. Once the change had been made, the front door and all doors were still fully functional. Only later was the account suspended.

So again, the ISP managers saw that the obscure site, which had not been updated in 2+ years, was crashing because of increased traffic. They did not shut the site down or contact the site admins but rather modified one obscure portion of one page on the site explaining the situation while linking to a biased US website and leaving the entire site and "front door" fully functional. Later, they suspended the account because it was not a premium account. Is that right? Seriously?

39 posted on 08/04/2009 12:07:43 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: FTJM

I don’t know if the Bomford certificate is a source or not - I do know as soon as I saw the alleged Kenya certificate I noticed it bore a great resemblance to an Australian birth certificate. I’ve got a certified copy of my own NSW certificate and it really does look quite similar.

I’m prepared to believe Kenyan ones might also be similar due to a Commonwealth link, but the instant I saw it, it really looked so familiar to me.


40 posted on 08/04/2009 12:09:14 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

That may very well be, but as I said here either someone set up Orly (she fell for it) or the Aussie BC is a fake. The genealogy website is way too convenient and suspicious.


41 posted on 08/04/2009 12:15:23 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: FTJM

Found this at politjab on a message board..

Incidentally, Ed and Hummingbird are saying that the fake Kenyan document was rumored to have been produced by somebody at PJ. Ed is saying that WND is no better than the
Edit: World Sleaze DailyMain Sleaze Media
. The Constitutional scholar, Ken, is saying that the two citizen parents Constitutional question will probably never be heard by a court. They seem sort of down for some reason. Ed has sent Orly a message breaking the bad news to her. Dunbar says her case before Judge Carter never depended on the fake Kenyan document.

I think Ducky did it again.


42 posted on 08/04/2009 12:22:35 AM PDT by OL Hickory (I AM JIM THOMPSON!!)
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To: FTJM; Technical Editor
The link, which was inserted deep in the family tree on one of the site pages and occurred before before the account was suspended, was to the Washington Independent, a biased US website, as referenced in my OP.

Didn't see it, even though I fetched the original image a number of times after Technical Editor first found it and thus conclusively debunked the certificate.

In any case, I just took a look at the link you provided in your original post, and it seemed like a straight-forward explanation of the facts available at the time. I didn't look at the rest of the site, so I can't opine if it's "biased".

If the Bomford site really was hacked to link to the Washington Independent, then you'd have hot story. But of course, you'd have to document it. Saying it happened isn't good enough.

43 posted on 08/04/2009 12:28:27 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: OL Hickory

Some troll from politijab took credit for it but another rumor is that someone named Hanen from Awakening radio is taking credit.


44 posted on 08/04/2009 12:29:53 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: naturalman1975
I’ve got a certified copy of my own NSW certificate and it really does look quite similar

Well, let's see it!
45 posted on 08/04/2009 12:35:53 AM PDT by GLDNGUN (PALIN/GINGRICH 2012 since 7/26/08)
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To: FTJM
BTW, here is Bomford's contact info, if you feel like documenting the hack you discovered.

Domain Name.......... bomford.net
  Creation Date........ 2005-02-08
  Registration Date.... 2005-02-08
  Expiry Date.......... 2010-02-08
  Organisation Name.... Richard Bomford
  Organisation Address. 25 Berrigan Crescent
  Organisation Address.
  Organisation Address. OConnor
  Organisation Address. 2602
  Organisation Address. ACT
  Organisation Address. AUSTRALIA

Admin Name........... Richard Bomford
  Admin Address........ 25 Berrigan Crescent
  Admin Address........
  Admin Address........ OConnor
  Admin Address........ 2602
  Admin Address........ ACT
  Admin Address........ AUSTRALIA
  Admin Email.......... web1manager@bomford.net
  Admin Phone.......... +61.262477959
  Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact
  Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
  Tech Address.........
  Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
  Tech Address......... 94089
  Tech Address......... CA
  Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
  Tech Email........... domain.tech@yahoo-inc.com
  Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096
  Tech Fax.............
  Name Server.......... ns1.serverlinks.net
  Name Server.......... ns2.serverlinks.net

I leave it to you to come up with a case to make to them why they should investigate how the Washington Independent hacked them. Something about making history, perhaps? You have to realize, they're just trying to have some family memorabilia hosted online. They don't need Obama. They don't need the Birfers. They're down under in OZ! I suspect you'll need to make a case to interest them in helping you.

46 posted on 08/04/2009 12:38:46 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
Didn't see it, even though I fetched the original image a number of times after Technical Editor first found it and thus conclusively debunked the certificate.

In any case, I just took a look at the link you provided in your original post, and it seemed like a straight-forward explanation of the facts available at the time. I didn't look at the rest of the site, so I can't opine if it's "biased".

If the Bomford site really was hacked to link to the Washington Independent, then you'd have hot story. But of course, you'd have to document it. Saying it happened isn't good enough.

Didn't see it? The link is clearly listed in the body of the posted thread. If you're not even going to read the thread or the linked site, you should refrain from commenting. FYI, I never said it "happened". I said it was strange and asked a question. READ THE THREAD.

47 posted on 08/04/2009 12:40:22 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: cynwoody
I leave it to you to come up with a case to make to them why they should investigate how the Washington Independent hacked them. Something about making history, perhaps? You have to realize, they're just trying to have some family memorabilia hosted online. They don't need Obama. They don't need the Birfers. They're down under in OZ! I suspect you'll need to make a case to interest them in helping you.

I never said that the Washington Independent hacked anyone. You didn't read the thread, thoroughly look at the linked site, or understand my comments yet you commented on it as some internet expert. You can't be this daft.

48 posted on 08/04/2009 12:46:01 AM PDT by FTJM
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To: ponygirl

ROFL! That poor guy! LOL that likely came out of nowhere, 5 thousand hits or something LMAO

I don’t blame him, besides there are LOTS of copies all over the place now! LOL

Talk about surprises... I bet he got his socks knocked off! LOL


49 posted on 08/04/2009 12:48:42 AM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: All

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50 posted on 08/04/2009 12:54:59 AM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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