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To: Plutarch
It is time for conservatives to distance themselves from the obviously unstable Dr.Orly Taitz. She has recently discredited herself with her near hysterical performance on MSNBC and this screed of hers is simply disreputable. She is a liability with which the conservative movement can no longer afford to be associated.

As for the birther movement itself, the issue of the legitimacy of Barack Obama's birth remains theoretically open. It is theoretically possible that his mother or grandmother filed an application falsely alleging a private birth at home in Honolulu which resulted in a Birth Certificate which purported a birth in Hawaii. This document in turn spawned a Certification of Live Birth and two newspaper announcements. All succeeding documents were automatically generated and all succeeding documents were as fraudulent as the initial application. All subsequent pronouncements by the officials of the state of Hawaii properly reflected that proper procedures were followed and correctly recited that the documents show a birth in Honolulu, Hawaii. Hence, garbage in, garbage out and all the garbage was turned out on automatic pilot. That, at any rate, it is the remaining scenario to show the Barack Obama is not a naturall born citizen of the United States.

This scenario is theoretically possible but not likely. Far more likely is a simple explanation that Barack Obama received an ordinary birth certificate as is normally issued upon live birth in a Honolulu hospital. But that is only a likelihood. Therefore, I believe that we should maintain an open mind and a steadfast insistence that Obama produce the underlying documents which would settle the provenance of the Certificate of Live Birth.

Meanwhile, as a matter of our own survival is is time to say au revoir to Doctor Dr.Orly Taitz.


32 posted on 08/04/2009 12:03:24 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
With respect, I'm not going to be ditching Orly Taitz.

Her B/C has neither been proven nor disproven so far.

Don't be discouraged by this babbling chorus of lies from Salon, Something Awful and so on. Flak, target etc.

43 posted on 08/04/2009 12:15:28 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: nathanbedford

1. I just checked, and there’s still some strange obfuscated Javascript code at the end of the source for her blog. I emailed her and others about this and offered to help, and it’s still there. I suspect she was hacked and it’s a virus of some kind. It’s not a good sign that it’s still there. (If you visit, turn off Javascript first and then close your browswer and clear your cookies and cache afterwards).

2. The way to make lemonade out of this situation is to do what I’ve been trying to do for over a year: discredit the MSM over this issue. Instead of looking at Photoshop layers, how about actually doing something that would strike back at the MSM?


53 posted on 08/04/2009 12:33:34 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com
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To: nathanbedford

Sorry — but Orly has done more for this cause than anyone else. What have you and many others done other than idle blather.


107 posted on 08/04/2009 2:19:43 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: nathanbedford
This scenario is theoretically possible but not likely. Far more likely is a simple explanation that Barack Obama received an ordinary birth certificate as is normally issued upon live birth in a Honolulu hospital

But you ignore the "what is he hiding" issue. Before the election in particular, there was no reason not to acquire a copy of his original birth certificate. None, except that he was hiding something that it reveals. Just as he is hiding virtually all of his documentation such as college transcripts, medical records, etc, that most President's routinely release.

128 posted on 08/04/2009 3:23:37 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: nathanbedford

I’m going to have to reject your judgment on Dr. Taitz, primarily because you have offered no logical support for it.


138 posted on 08/04/2009 4:10:34 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberals have neither the creativity nor the confidence to understand the truth of conservatism)
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To: nathanbedford
It is time for conservatives to distance themselves from the obviously unstable Dr.Orly Taitz. She has recently discredited herself with her near hysterical performance on MSNBC and this screed of hers is simply disreputable. She is a liability with which the conservative movement can no longer afford to be associated.

Normally, I respect your comments because you are very articulate and logical. However, That statement is cowardice. If we ignore and disassociate ourselves from everyone who gets ridiculed by MSNBC we may as well throw in the towel. This lady is the only person with the guts to repeatedly get up and say that Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama (or whatever his name actually is) is not a Natural Born Citizen and is not eligible per the US Constitution. She has stated that the Kenyan document needs to be verified.

153 posted on 08/04/2009 6:58:01 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: nathanbedford
I quite vigorously disagree with you.

Based on the thorough analysis of the possibilities by FReepers I believe it is highly likely the Kenyan BC is genuine. The ramifications of that possibility are mind boggling.

I fully support Orlys efforts 100%

157 posted on 08/04/2009 7:23:42 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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