I thought FactCheck.org were the people who actually produced the original COLB which caused all of the controversy. They later admitted that the COLB was given to them as a file and that they were not sure of it’s veracity, didn’t they? I don’t remember them actually ever mentioning that they had actually examined Obama’s original birth certificate.
Another thing, birth announcements mean nothing. I was born in Orlando, FL on July 4th, 1962. The following week, there appeared a birth announcement for me in both the Boston Globe and the Lawrence Eagle Tribune. Both of these papers are in Massachusetts. These two birth announcements, placed by both of my sets of grandparents do not prove that I was born in Massachusetts.
Back during a time when people left calling cards and wrote thank you letters, this announcement process was customary and often executed by grandmothers and grandfathers out of pride, regardless of where the child was born. In my case, my grandparent’s address was used so the local paper would deem it newsworthy from a local point of view and actually print it. My guess is the address shown in both of Obama’s birth announcements, just like in my case a year later, were his grandparents’ address. Yes?
So, we are back to square one. Nothing proven, lot’s of smoke and Obama sitting on the truth. So, who exactly is crazy here?
I gave up trying to reply rationally in these threads before the inauguration. But let me try one more time.
Let’s say Obama really was born in Kenya. His mother was only 18, and thus could not confer citizenship at birth on him because she couldn’t satisfy the statute in effect at the time, which required the U.S. citizen parent’s physical presence in the U.S. for at least 5 years after the age of 14.
So Stanley Ann Dunham goes to the consulate in Kenya to get a Consular Report of Birth Abroad (the equivalent of a birth certificate proving U.S. citizenship for those not born in the U.S.) and is told, sorry, you are only 18, it’s impossible for you to have been physically present in the U.S. for 5 years after the age of 14.
Without the issuance of that Consular Report of Birth Abroad, she cannot get a passport for her newborn son. And he cannot enter the U.S. without a passport.
Her only option is to petition for an immigrant visa for her son, which he is entitled to as the child of a U.S. citizen, even if he isn’t entitled to having U.S. citizenship conferred at birth.
That takes some time; how long it took in 1961, I do not know, but it was far from something that could be done on the spot. Baby Barack would have had to have stayed put in Kenya for some time.
The former INS/now USCIS would have records of the petition for the visa, and records of whenever Baby Barack did in fact enter the U.S., because that would have been the date he became a legal permanent resident. He would have been sent a green card shortly after his entry. There would be records of that.
I know. Ann Dunham got someone in Hawaii to issue a phony birth certificate saying Baby Barack was born in Hawaii. But Baby Barack still had to get from Kenya to Hawaii. Ann Dunham would have had to have gotten a passport for him with the phony birth certificate. The State Department would have records of this. And she would have had to have flown back to Kenya to retrieve Baby Barack so he could enter the U.S. with his fraudulently obtained passport.
In short, no matter how you slice it, there should be a highly incriminating paper trail of government records that could be readily unearthed. Why haven’t they been?
What really intrigues me is the total lack of any substantive background info being released, no school records, no nothing, and what really blows your mind is that no one (to my knowledge) has even said, “Hey I went to school with that guy, who woulda guessed he would be president!”, now that’s spooky. Nothing’s released, no real work history anyway, just a real ZERO.