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To: mlo

Don’t agree. It depends at what point an alien becomes a resident citizen. Can someone be an alien and yet be a naturalized citizen at the same time.

Is it conceivable that the son or daughter of two illegal mexican aliens could become president, I think not. If birthright alone was the criteria for a natural born citizen, why do we even differentiate in the constitution?

Once again, it gets into the native born versus natural born. And when does an alien not become an alien, after he/she obtains citizenship? Define alien as they did in 16th and 17th century England. I believe it defines those not born under British jurisdiction, but those who obtained citizenship through immigration or by being declared such by British conquest. To attempt to use 17th/18th century definitions to apply to 21st century America invites only confusion. Back then, for example, many of those who immigrated from colonies to England had neither the financial means nor the capabilities to do so, but they were British citizens even before they arrived on England’s shores, yet were problably considered aliens in England.

The bottom line is that there are serious doubts about what natural born citizenship is and the Democrats should have fully investigated obama’s citizenship credentials before ever nominating him.


51 posted on 08/05/2009 10:08:19 AM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid
"Don’t agree."

The law is the law, whether we agree with it or not.

"Is it conceivable that the son or daughter of two illegal mexican aliens could become president, I think not. If birthright alone was the criteria for a natural born citizen, why do we even differentiate in the constitution?"

Read the cites I posted. This is specifically covered. Yes, the child of two Mexican aliens would be eligible.

By requiring a "natural born citizen" the qualification in the Constitution prohibits a naturalized citizen from being President. That is its purpose.

"Once again, it gets into the native born versus natural born. And when does an alien not become an alien, after he/she obtains citizenship?"

No, it doesn't, because there is no such distinction. You are a citizen or an alien. If citizen, you are natural born or naturalized. All this other stuff are phantom issues designed to confuse. It really isn't that complicated. Again, read the cites. They are quite clear.

"The bottom line is that there are serious doubts about what natural born citizenship is..."

Serious doubts on whose part? The birthers? That doesn't make it a legitimate issue. There is no doubt in the law. If you are born in the US you are a natural born citizen.

52 posted on 08/05/2009 10:20:46 AM PDT by mlo
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