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To: RobinMasters
"My daughter was 18 months old and she just had her 50th birthday this year," Toutongi recalled. "So, that would make the time around February and March 1962."

Somebody check my math.

If her daughter turned 50 in 2009, her daughter was born in 1959. If you use June, 1959 as the birth month, eighteen months is early 1961, not 1962. She's off by a year when she brings her daughter into the mix.

When Toutingi saya Obama was seven months old, then it would be the spring of 1962. She muddied the waters when she brought her daughter into the picture.

What I did NOT see was a transcript of Dunham's for the fall, 1961 semester that says she completed these classes. The transcript shown is from the spring of 1962.

I recall that a friend of Obama's babymommy in Seattle had a visit from her when Obambi was about three weeks old, and that she had to teach Dunham the proper way to affix a diaper.

There wasn't widespread daycare then, nor were any close relatives around in Seattle--so who watched the infant Obama while Dunham went to classes in the fall of 1961 in Seattle?

Thinking of the family dynamics, Grandma Madeline probably had a ball of fire on her hands with Miss Stanley Ann, who was very headstrong. We see in the summer of 1961, Stanley Ann has managed to "marry" a black man from Kenya with no means of support and is eight months pregnant and due to start school in August for the fall, 1961 term.

It seems more probable that Madeline may have instructed Ann, since the validity of her marriage to Obama may have been in doubt when it surfaced that Obama Sr. had another wife in Kenyan according to village custom, to go across the border into Canada, give birth, and give the baby up for adoption.

Stanley Ann probably disobeyed Madeline, gave birth and came back to Seattle. Madeline, realizing her rebellious daughter has screwed up royally once again, sends in the birth announcement and registers Obama Jr. in Hawaii so he can at least be an American citizen.

If he was born in Canada to a father who was a British subject, then he was not only not natural born, he had dual citizenship at birth.

What is amazing is that we can tour the country and visit the birthplaces of American Presidents with no problem--until we get to the closet Muslim now in the White House. It is a national embarassment that no one can even instruct the National Park Service where to create the marker for the birthplace.

42 posted on 08/04/2009 9:12:56 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: exit82
This was my question... How was the babysitter's daughter 18mos old (meaning a birthday somewhere mid-1959) when she babysat a 7mo 0? That would mean he was born a year sooner, his mother would have been 17yo and still in high school in WA state when she was expecting.
71 posted on 08/04/2009 9:38:21 PM PDT by kimla
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To: exit82

“My daughter was 18 months old and she just had her 50th birthday this year,” Toutongi recalled. “So, that would make the time around February and March 1962.”

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Maybe she made the statement last year. When did she make that statement?


75 posted on 08/04/2009 9:42:00 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: exit82
What I did NOT see was a transcript of Dunham's for the fall, 1961 semester that says she completed these classes. The transcript shown is from the spring of 1962.

You have to look in the lower right, under Extension/Correspondence. There it shows she took two *extension* classes each in the Autum and Winter quarters. It shows her grades too. 3 A's and a B. The B was in "Modern Government" taken in the Autumn. The other courses were Anthropology (which carried the same number then as it does today) Logic (in the philosphy department, not math) and "History of Africa South"

135 posted on 08/04/2009 11:54:08 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: exit82
If he was born in Canada to a father who was a British subject, then he was not only not natural born, he had dual citizenship at birth.

Neither one of them US. Although I'm not sure of the arrangement within the Commonwealth at that time. Maybe he'd just be a Subject of the Queen, only one citizenship, British.

137 posted on 08/05/2009 12:01:10 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: exit82
What is amazing is that we can tour the country and visit the birthplaces of American Presidents with no problem--until we get to the closet Muslim now in the White House. It is a national embarassment that no one can even instruct the National Park Service where to create the marker for the birthplace.

The only President born in a hospital to have such a marker is Clinton, and that partially because the hospital later burnt to the ground, and was not rebuilt, at least not on that site. The other Presidents to be born in a hospital were Carter, and Bush 43. All the rest were not born in Hospitals, although many of the more notable ones do have a marker or even museum, at their birthplace. Ikes's is Dennison, Texas for example. Fords in Omaha. Both in houses.

That's why I find all the folderol about McCain being born in the hospital in Colon, Panama in 1936, to be well, BS.

The hospital I was born in 1949 had it's first birth in 1942, despite having been in existence since 1889, and the physical building being essentially the same layout by around 1930. McCain was the child of a mid grade officer, and grandchild of an admiral.. both on the same base. The doctor, and there was at least one Navy doctor at Coco Solo at the time, would have made a house call. :)

139 posted on 08/05/2009 12:15:29 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: exit82

The article about the babysitter came out last year.


223 posted on 08/05/2009 9:07:22 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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