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McCain sees N.Korea as using Clinton visit for propaganda
Reuters ^ | 2009-08-05 | Steve Holland

Posted on 08/05/2009 2:46:33 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: Gator113

facts is facts pal.

McCain went to Nam and acted like a damn Stockholm Syndrome fool hugging the Hanoi Hilton staff, while undermining there and in the US Senate- those honorable people trying to get Vietnamese to be forthcoming about the fate of MIA’s who had been sighted alive or in camps.

I have wartime service in Southeast Asia, too. Not that I need to served in the war to speak facts.

I worked over the years with many a POW who kept his mouth shut in public about McCain. But privately....
But in their honor (Not McCain’s) I’m not gonna go there. Not my story to tell.


21 posted on 08/05/2009 3:56:17 PM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: parsifal
Bill Clinton done good and got those two girls out of a commie hell.

Seventy years ago, they would have been left to rot in the North Korean gulag, just like the Americans arrested in the USSR by the secret police there and tortured and enslaved by the Soviets in the Siberian gulags.

22 posted on 08/05/2009 3:57:07 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Who is Jim Thompson?)
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To: rabscuttle385
It's not the point of this thread, and the story of what went on over there belongs to the POW’s, and they are too honorable to talk about him. It is their story to tell. Not mine..

His record in Congress about dumping on US efforts to determine the fate of the MIA’s- speaks for itself. Therefore his comments about North Korea struck me as real hypocritical given his pandering to the Communist Vietnamese.. Just sayin.

23 posted on 08/05/2009 4:03:47 PM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: JrsyJack

LOL.......ditto to your DUH


24 posted on 08/05/2009 4:06:48 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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I was wondering how BJ’s plane landed in Burbank airport.

It is not an International airport with US Customs clearance.

25 posted on 08/05/2009 4:14:10 PM PDT by troy McClure
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To: ex-snook
"The only mystery is were the girls stupid or pawns. Seems like a lot of people are walking near borders and ‘getting lost’."

I'm trying to find a reason not to be paranoid about this whole incident, but I too question the intelligence of wandering borders of countries hostile to my homeland.
26 posted on 08/05/2009 4:17:24 PM PDT by ljco (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke)
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To: rabscuttle385
"“The question is, will this signal a change in North Korean behavior?” McCain said"

I'm thinking its not going to be a Hopey Changey behavior modification.
27 posted on 08/05/2009 4:21:01 PM PDT by ljco (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Gator113; silverleaf; rabscuttle385

I THINK what is meant here is the way that McLame SHUT DOWN HEARINGS into the live sightings of MIAs and POWs never accounted for. That, IMO, is one of the most despicable things he ever could have done. In my book, McLame is on a par with Henry the K, who wrote off those 2000+ of my brothers just so he could “end the war” and get his Nobel Prize. That, IMO, totally negates any honors due McLame for his “service.”

In fact, I think Henry and Juan should be turned over to a broad panel of Vietnam Veterans. I’m sure we could figure out something appropriate to do with them!


28 posted on 08/05/2009 4:45:27 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: rabscuttle385

The U.S. could shrug it off since Bill has no actual authority (unlike his wife now).


29 posted on 08/05/2009 4:50:03 PM PDT by jilliane
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To: rabscuttle385
He's right. This is Clinton's contribution to Dear Leader's global apology tour.

"...I know what they understand and that is the threat of extinction..." - John S. McCain

30 posted on 08/05/2009 4:51:04 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: rabscuttle385

No SH*T hocky-puck!


31 posted on 08/05/2009 5:23:43 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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To: rabscuttle385; silverleaf
Rabs, my friend, you sure know what one of my hot buttons are about McLoser.

In 1992, He and John Kerry(what a coincidence) led a Senate subcommittee to investigate the claims about remaining American MIA/POWs in Vietnam.

The war ended in 1973. We knew, and so did McCain, having been there almost 7 years in Hanoi as a POW, that there were about 1200 POWs.

When they came off the planes in May 1973, there only about 600 of them. The other 600? Evidently, Nixon and Kissinger, to get the first 600 men, agreed to leave the others behind. They would be exchanged for a $ 4 billion
“reparations” payment to North Vietnam. Nixon could not get Congress to approve the $ 4 billion(Congress didn't know the real reason for the money—but, reflecting the mood of the country after a 14 year war that cost 58,000 American lives- said no to any money for NV).

From 1973 to 1992, there over 14,000 recorded sightings of American POWs in SE Asia—Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos. Some of the signs were the pilots own “call signs” a secret code known only to them and their command.

McCain and Kerry held hearings, and in an unbelievable scene,McCain yelled at an MIA family that pleaded with McCain not to shut down the investigation. Ever since then, IMHO, McCain, war hero or not can go straight to Hell. Remember, Kerry was a Communist sympathiser and anti-war hero. In 2004, Kerry considered McCain as a VP candidate. Imagine having a fake war hero, Kerry,as PRez and McCain, who turned his back on his fellow MIA/POWs as VP. What a nightmare!

McCain cannot ever be trusted. His cry of “Fight with me” for our country, and “Country First” in 2008 rang hollow only until Sarah Palin came into the picture. Because she believes in America.

Anyway, in some not so small way, Mr. McCain is complicit in covering up what happened to 600 POWs left to rot and die, one by one, hoping that there country would come for them.For a military man, a POW no less, to do that was an unthinkable betrayal.

Silverleaf, thank you for your service to our country, It was honorable and saved lives. Our Congress in 1975 threw it all away when they betrayed the South Vietnamese and cut off promised aid when North Vietnam invaded. And these people are still around.

In my opinion John McCain betrayed America one more time in 2008, when he would NOT fight for his country in the wake of the Obama steamroller. In spite of the gifts of Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber, he threw all that away, so to hell with him.

We now have to deal with the results of his vaulted bipartisanship.

Sorry for the lecture—but I swallowed real hard to pull the lever for that SOB last November—I only reconciled it by saying it was a vote for Sarah Palin. I had planned not even to vote for a Presidential candidate for the first time in 36 years of voting.

32 posted on 08/05/2009 6:24:11 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: troy McClure

“I was wondering how BJ’s plane landed in Burbank airport.
It is not an International airport with US Customs clearance.”

Customs agents met the plane in Burbank and went on board to clear everyone before they disembarked.

From the linked article,

“The plane, a newer model 737, landed on Runway 8 and remained outside a state-of-the art, solar-powered hangar while it was boarded by customs agents. After the agents deplaned, the aircraft was towed inside, and the women came down at 6:15 a.m.”

http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/news/local/Clinton_Freed_Journalist_Arrive_Burbank_20090805


33 posted on 08/06/2009 1:46:45 AM PDT by Mila
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