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‘Punkin’ the Birthers: Priceless’ [pictures supposedly from forger of Kenya BC]
Washington Independent ^ | 8/6/09 | Dave Weigel

Posted on 08/06/2009 11:53:16 AM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com

It’s looking more and more like the forged “Kenyan birth certificate” released by Orly Taitz on Sunday was a prank by a supporter of President Obama. Politijab points to an anonymous blogger at FearlessBlogging, who has uploaded four photos of the original forgery and a mocking declaration:

Fine cotton business paper: $11

Inkjet printer: $35

1940 Royal Model KMM manual typewriter: $10

2 Shilling coin: $1

Pilot Varsity fountain pen: $3

Punkin’ the Birthers: Priceless


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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afterbirthers; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; fraud; kenya; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; prank; punk; stanleyann
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I don't know whether this is accurate or not. But, in case anyone wants to do something about this issue that would have an impact well beyond birthcertificate, please help me use this issue to discredit the MSM. You don't have to believe in any "birther theories" to use this issue to discredit the MSM. All you have to do is be able to tell the truth and point out that the MSM has not been telling the truth.

One issue I could really use some help with is posted here. If I could get a statement from Hawaii on that issue, I could then get a correction from the NYT and CNN. And, that would both strike back at the anti-birthers and would help improve coverage of other topics. Please spend a few minutes helping me with that.

1 posted on 08/06/2009 11:53:16 AM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

This is nothing comparing to how America got p’nked in 2008 from rigged debates where people were advanced the questions to Democrat staffers and activists asking questions at GOP debates as “uncommitted Republicans” to 2 states not having Democrat presidential primaries and encouraging Dems to vote in the GOP primaries in Florida and Michigan to...


2 posted on 08/06/2009 11:55:13 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Arresting and jailing the forger of a birth certificate: Priceless.


3 posted on 08/06/2009 11:57:24 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: a fool in paradise

And Acorn criminals, rigging votes.


4 posted on 08/06/2009 11:57:43 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

The bedspread in all photos in the same, including the photo sent to Orly of the claimed Obama Kenyan birth certificate.

So, yes, it appears this is the forger.

It is illegal to forge documents intended to be used as evidence in a legal proceeding in the U.S. federal courts.

Someone forward this to Orly, and I very much hope she presses the FBI to track down and prosecute the forger.


5 posted on 08/06/2009 11:58:24 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Creating an fake offical document of a government is fraud, and is against the law.


6 posted on 08/06/2009 11:58:40 AM PDT by stockpirate ("The time for talking is past, now is the time for taking action." Barack Obama 2008)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

http://kenyanbirthcertificategenerator.com/


7 posted on 08/06/2009 11:59:10 AM PDT by jaxon72
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

This seems like a criminal case for fraud, counterfiting and forgery. Where is the Nazi at Injustice Department?


8 posted on 08/06/2009 11:59:38 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Note the red patterned bedspread appearing in all four photos.

9 posted on 08/06/2009 12:00:59 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

These are the 0’s number though...the one originally posted on FR had a different number supposedly.

Still, doesn’t look good.


10 posted on 08/06/2009 12:01:05 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: MEGoody

>Arresting and jailing the forger of a birth certificate: Priceless.

Sounds good to me.


11 posted on 08/06/2009 12:03:18 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
New and improved Obamassiah BC with Comments Section!!


12 posted on 08/06/2009 12:04:38 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: LucyT

Punk’d.


13 posted on 08/06/2009 12:04:57 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
If Orly's B/C can be confirmed against the primary sources then its a go.

If it can't then it's a no-go.

This has been the position of most of the FReepers who've been following this: we insisted on authentication. We didn't accept and haven't accepted Orly's B/C uncritically. We just want the facts.

If the Orly B/C is inauthentic then this simply means that the basis for the 'Birther' issue hasn't changed. A million fakes of Obama's B/C will not prove that Obama has a real one. We need to see the original.

14 posted on 08/06/2009 12:04:59 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: MEGoody

The forger of the Kenyan BC broke no laws.


15 posted on 08/06/2009 12:05:15 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: stockpirate

And it obscures the truth. Trivializes the matter at hand.


16 posted on 08/06/2009 12:05:16 PM PDT by BluntRM
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To: stockpirate

So is passing one off to a court of law.


17 posted on 08/06/2009 12:05:44 PM PDT by jaxon72
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To: stockpirate
Creating an fake offical document of a government is fraud, and is against the law.

Just creating it is not a fraud. Attempting to pass it off as genuine in an official proceeding is fraud. If anyone is in legal jeopardy here, it's Orly. She filed it with the court and tried to get the court to act based on it.

What would be interesting is how the document got into Orly's possession. Note that her motion to the court only said that she "has it in [her] possession," but doesn't say how she got it. If she just got it in the mail from an anonymous sender and ran to file it in court without doing any due diligence, she is very likely subject to sanctions.

18 posted on 08/06/2009 12:07:15 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lion Den Dan

Calling the hoax a forgery is like calling monopoly money a forgery. It’s so obviously a fake that only a fool would believe it to be real.


19 posted on 08/06/2009 12:08:18 PM PDT by jaxon72
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

I’ve read several posts on liberal boards (know thy enemy) about a wave of fakes coming out. The plan is to swamp “Birthers” in a tsunami of documents bogging down the hunt for truth to the point it’s impossible.


20 posted on 08/06/2009 12:08:30 PM PDT by FreedomFerret
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To: Lurking Libertarian

If this is real, looks like Orly was using a photo given to her by the owner of the bedspread background. Her filing mentioned a photo. I wonder if she ever had an original.


21 posted on 08/06/2009 12:09:38 PM PDT by Genoa
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

It only becomes a fraud if one attempts to pass the forged document for official purposes.


22 posted on 08/06/2009 12:09:46 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: MEGoody

Even more disturbing is that they all fall down and worship a fraud and a liar.

I reckon that explains why they voted for 0.

[Gosh...that was a quick course in “aberrant psychology”, wasn’t it?]

People should now have clue what they’re dealing with, if they didn’t already.

These people openly embrace the father of lies.


23 posted on 08/06/2009 12:10:59 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away..............)
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To: autumnraine
Actually, nothing has been proven at all.

Proof can only come from the evaluation of the document that Orly presented, to the court.

More to the point, it appears that the Australian BC WAS a hoax!

24 posted on 08/06/2009 12:11:08 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: jaxon72

First, we do NOT know that the Orly document is a “hoax” at all, do we?

Second, if it IS a “forgery” it is one of the BEST forgery jobs in history.

Try again.


25 posted on 08/06/2009 12:13:41 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Whether or not it’s a fake or not doesn’t matter.

He will not be removed from office.

Not now, not ever.

He will destroy the USA, and the rest of the world will follow.

We’ve all been punk’d.

Checkmate has been called.


26 posted on 08/06/2009 12:14:05 PM PDT by chris37
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To: Kansas58

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106135


27 posted on 08/06/2009 12:14:30 PM PDT by jaxon72
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To: Genoa
Her filing mentioned a photo. I wonder if she ever had an original.

All she said was that she had "a color copy" of the document. She never claimed to have an original.

28 posted on 08/06/2009 12:14:39 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: musicman

LOL That’s priceless. I am SO stealing that!


29 posted on 08/06/2009 12:14:51 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
a prank by a supporter of President Obama

Unidentified Faker Obama

Whatever you think about UFOs there are serious investigators of the few unexplained sightings. The overzealous cause chaos -- but worst of all are the suspected disinformation schemes -- the purpose of them (government?) is to cover up by dissembling, sowing rumors and dissension.

Obama's mother was/wasn't in Seattle and Honolulu at the same time
the Grandmother who did/didn't say this or that
Obama's letter to Kapiolani that's not a letter
the Kenyan birth certificate that's not
the COLBs that are not . . . .

Has Obama hired retired U.S.S.R. disinformation specialists? I wonder.

30 posted on 08/06/2009 12:14:53 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: FreedomFerret

Both Something Awful and Anonymous have recently stated this is a prime opportunity for their games. Look for lots of this stuff to be popping up everywhere.


31 posted on 08/06/2009 12:14:54 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: MEGoody

Yes, that would be absolutely priceless to see him frog-marched.

I found it too “convenient”. Barry seems to have no end of sympathetic document forgers.

As always, Barry should authorize Hawaii to submit his Long Form Birth Certificate to a federal court and let the ruling be made (and the document PUBLIC).

There’s no problem with it, we’ve been told.

So they have excuse to not do it.


32 posted on 08/06/2009 12:15:56 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Orly Taitz meet Dan Rather. She so wanted it to be true she just believed.


33 posted on 08/06/2009 12:16:11 PM PDT by sharkhawk (Here come the Hawks)
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To: MEGoody
Arresting and jailing the forger of a birth certificate: Priceless.

*******

2010 Elections: Birthers voting against Democratic Senator and Representative candidates in the 2010 elections who support Obama and who say that Obama does not have to release his Hawaii long form birth certificate and his Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard college records if he does NOT feel like it: Priceless.

34 posted on 08/06/2009 12:18:14 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Yep, a color copy of a photograph, I reckon.


35 posted on 08/06/2009 12:18:33 PM PDT by Genoa
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To: Kansas58

One of the best fogery jobs in history?

You got to be kidding!

It was debunked within a day.


36 posted on 08/06/2009 12:18:36 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Kansas58
Proof can only come from the evaluation of the document that Orly presented, to the court.

I have practiced law in federal courts for 31 years. You can't just waltz into court with a photo of a document, without saying where you got it, and ask the court to take action based on it (even to take discovery into its genuineness). You have to, at a minimum, show where it came from (something Orly doesn't say in her motion) and present enough evidence to suggest that it at least might be genuine before the court will do anything.

37 posted on 08/06/2009 12:18:50 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: wkg

ping


38 posted on 08/06/2009 12:20:08 PM PDT by jaxon72
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To: sharkhawk
Orly presented the photo of the B/C to the court for authentication

She made no claims as to its authenticity.

39 posted on 08/06/2009 12:20:15 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
As much as I despise everything this guy stands for, what happens if irrefutable evidence is found that he is not constitutionally qualified and he is removed on that basis? It will tear this country apart and the rift will not heal for generations, if ever. He will be a living martyr for the left. I really believe this is a no win situation if it continues to be pursued.

He is on a downward spiral from a popularity and policy perspective. Why not let the natural progression of events take their course and get the benefit of his losing in 2012 (or even being forced to step down for breaking a dozen or so laws) as well as having leftist policies discredited for generations? I'm not saying lay down and let the leftists destroy the country. On the contrary, fight like hell, but on a policy level.

Just my two cents worth.

40 posted on 08/06/2009 12:20:54 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: jaxon72; All
Kiss off newbie. You made the same comment from the punked website. The third comment down.

Calling the hoax a forgery is like calling monopoly money a forgery. It’s so obviously a fake that only a fool would believe it to be real.

<Ha ha. Calling the hoax a forgery is like calling monopoly money a forgery. It's so obviously a fake that only a fool would believe it to be real

I smell ozone.
41 posted on 08/06/2009 12:22:14 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: patriot08

42 posted on 08/06/2009 12:22:21 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Kansas58

It is a forgery and he is one of the “punks” that did it.


43 posted on 08/06/2009 12:23:07 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
Assuming it's fake, it was sort of dumb to think anyone could actually produce the "real" BC, especially on a keynan, by kenyans. I still don't believe he was born here, his loyalties are too split, but I believe he should be made to prove it by producing a real BC and not the forgery he offered on his website.

Outsiders trying to find a "copy" of the real BC, have been punked...they all look alike, ya know.
44 posted on 08/06/2009 12:23:33 PM PDT by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity we receive....INCUMBENTS OUT!!!)
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To: jaxon72
Calling the hoax a forgery is like calling monopoly money a forgery.

Arrest Milton Bradley!

45 posted on 08/06/2009 12:23:45 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("i'm FREQUENTLY wrong"--Stand Watie)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

no, she asked the court to determine if it WAS authentic.
Stop with the absurd disinformation.
Read her comlpaint.


46 posted on 08/06/2009 12:23:52 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: agere_contra
Orly presented the photo of the B/C to the court for authentication.
She made no claims as to its authenticity.

Correct, and the results of that authentication have not yet been published.

47 posted on 08/06/2009 12:23:54 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Lurking Libertarian

The BC is only ONE... I repeat ONLY ONE of many things that OBAMA should release to the people, researchers, biogrpahers etc. The presidency is of the people. I’m sorry, it has always been like that. If the MSM and low lifes like the guy who forged the document wish to make an @ss of this president more than he has then fine.

In my opinion, this whole affair with the Kenyan BC makes Obama look even more like the small man he is.


48 posted on 08/06/2009 12:26:45 PM PDT by nikos1121 (praying for -13)
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To: meadsjn

One of the tabloids has a story this week and quotes Techdude and Polarik.


49 posted on 08/06/2009 12:26:53 PM PDT by RummyChick ("Free Speech....is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny" Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black)
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To: Kansas58

lol.


50 posted on 08/06/2009 12:28:16 PM PDT by jaxon72
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