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To: hoosierham

I was merely pointing out how misleading your post was to think it was something new and going back to Clinton.

Judging by the way you slandered the entire history of the United States military, I guess I embarrassed you a little.


53 posted on 08/07/2009 10:32:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12; hoosierham

I don’t think he slandarded the entire history of the US military. He used the words ‘rare’ and ‘occassionally’.

He also forgot to list the machine gunning of men women and children in the phillipines.


73 posted on 08/08/2009 12:24:09 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ansel12
Well ansel you didn't embarrass me at all;you might look to your own study of history.

Surely millions of Americans,mostly men,have served well and in so doing,made the nation and world better.But every unit had its shady characters,a very few crossed way over the lines of acceptable behavior for civilized people.The fact that 99.999% of American servicemen don't rape,murder,and rob doesn't mean we should ignore those who did.

Good military men covering and excusing the real atrocities committed by bad military men is no different in principle than the often-decried apparent refusal of police officers and police unions to weed out the bad cops who abuse authority and fellow citizens.

Ignoring a problem won't make it go away;if anything ,it will grow.

Every honorable person who served ,as well as every citizen, should be embarrassed at those soldiers who committed gross wrongs and the politicians who often ordered those wrongs.

Care to explain the justice of the Trail of Tears -which was ordered by a U.S. president?Care to explain how the firebombing of Dresden was effective in reducing Nazi weapons production since it wasn't an industrial city?Care to justify the Union Army's wholesale burning of southern homes and food by the revered Sherman? Or the merciless shelling of Southern civilians by Union artillery in Vicksburg and Virginia?The U.S cavalry attacks on Indian villages that were not at war with the white nation in the 1870s?

Or let's remember the bellicose Teddy Roosevelt and his friends and the Spanish -American War which was started on very flimsy ,if not fabricated, evidence;evidence which the Navy towed out to sea and sank to keep it secret.

There is nothing so honorable as fighting righteously to defend oneself,one's family,one's nation ,or one's friends from attack by evil forces;conversely,it is entirely dis-honorable to fight simply to acquire another's wealth,or territory, or access to markets.

92 posted on 08/08/2009 10:00:15 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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