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Bob Dylan Detained By Cops Week After Gates, Story Buried Until Now
Newsbusters ^ | 8/15/09 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 08/15/2009 2:01:39 PM PDT by pissant

Exactly one week after the highly-publicized arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates stirred a national discussion on race relations, legendary singer-songwriter Bob Dylan was detained by police officers in a "low-income, predominantly minority neighborhood" in Long Branch, New Jersey.

Makes one wonder why it took so long for this to get reported, and if news outlets that were convinced Gates's arrest was racially motivated will see the delicious irony in a white rock star being questioned by police just because he was "wandering around the neighborhood."

The Associated Press sure didn't (h/t Clarence Page):

Rock legend Bob Dylan was treated like a complete unknown by police in a New Jersey shore community when a resident called to report someone wandering around the neighborhood.

Dylan was in Long Branch, about a two-hour drive south of New York City, on July 23 as part of a tour with Willie Nelson and John Mellencamp that was to play at a baseball stadium in nearby Lakewood.

A 24-year-old police officer apparently was unaware of who Dylan is and asked him for identification, Long Branch business administrator Howard Woolley said Friday. [...]

The incident began at 5 p.m. when a resident said a man was wandering around a low-income, predominantly minority neighborhood several blocks from the oceanfront looking at houses.

The police officer drove up to Dylan, who was wearing a blue jacket, and asked him his name. According to Woolley, the following exchange ensued:

"What is your name, sir?" the officer asked.

"Bob Dylan," Dylan said.

"OK, what are you doing here?" the officer asked.

"I'm on tour," the singer replied.

A second officer, also in his 20s, responded to assist the first officer. He, too, apparently was unfamiliar with Dylan, Woolley said. [...]

The officers asked Dylan, 68, to accompany them back to the Ocean Place Resort and Spa, where the performers were staying. Once there, tour staff vouched for Dylan.

Here's the money quote:

The officers thanked him for his cooperation.

"He couldn't have been any nicer to them," Woolley added.

In fact, according to ABCNews.com, Dylan was quite gracious:

"He was really nice, though, and he said he understood why I had to verify his identity and why I couldn't let him go," Buble said.

Hmmm. So, Dylan was detained a week after Gates, was cooperative, and the issue was quickly resolved.

And we're hearing about this NOW?

How might this have impacted the Gates-Sgt. James Crowley affair if it had been reported at the time it happened rather than over three weeks after the fact?

None of the news reports I've reviewed concerning the Dylan incident addressed why this matter was buried until now, nor did they mention how it might have related to the Gates-Crowley affair.

I guess when a white rock legend is detained by police for having the nerve to walk around a minority neighborhood, and cooperates fully with the authorities to quickly resolve the misunderstanding, it's not a teachable moment.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: banglist; bobdylan; civilrights; donutwatch; dylan; henrygates; identification; leo; mrskippy; msmcoverup; nationalid; obama; papers; police; profiling
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The difference between having class and respect for cops and being a classless racist POS
1 posted on 08/15/2009 2:01:47 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
Rock legend Bob Dylan was treated like a complete unknown by police in a New Jersey shore community when a resident called to report someone wandering around the neighborhood.

Wandering While White.

2 posted on 08/15/2009 2:03:41 PM PDT by freespirited (The Surgeon General has determined that Harry and Louise are dangerous to your health.)
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To: pissant
The difference between having class and respect for cops and being a classless racist POS

I agree with you about Gates but this cop broke the law. You have to have reasonable suspicion to detain someone and he did not.
3 posted on 08/15/2009 2:08:16 PM PDT by microgood
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To: pissant
Never heard of Bob Dylan? Man I'm getting old.

He might as well have told them that his name is Bob Zimmerman.

4 posted on 08/15/2009 2:11:05 PM PDT by Semper Mark (ObamaCare: A Funeral Directors delight.)
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To: microgood

Absolutely! No reason to detain him period.

parsy, who says the cops here and in Gates acted stupidly


5 posted on 08/15/2009 2:11:11 PM PDT by parsifal ("Where am I? How did I end up in this hospital room? What is my name?" Anonymous)
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To: microgood

I don’t know NJ’s laws, but someone had called the cops on Dylan so the female cop was suspicious of him and actually thought he was a nut for claiming he was Dylan...but had no ID. She didn’t arrest him, she gave him a ride to his bus so he could produce the ID, even though she thought he was feeding her a line of bull.


6 posted on 08/15/2009 2:11:39 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
I guess when a white rock legend is detained by police for having the nerve to walk around a minority neighborhood,

Sounds like he had a lot of nerve.

7 posted on 08/15/2009 2:11:55 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (w)
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To: pissant

If you ever go to Houston
Better walk right
Keep your hands in your pockets
And your gun-belt tight
You’ll be asking for trouble
If you’re lookin’ for a fight
If you ever go to Houston
Boy, you better walk right

If you’re ever down there
On Bagby and Lamar
You better watch out for
The man with the shining star
Better know where you’re going
Or stay where you are
If you’re ever down there
On Bagby and Lamar

I know these streets
I’ve been here before
I nearly got killed here
During the Mexican war
Something always
Keeps me coming back for more
I know these streets
I’ve been here before

If you ever go to Dallas
Say hello to Mary Anne
Say I’m still pullin’ on the trigger
Hangin’ on the best that I can
If you see her sister Lucy
Say I’m sorry I’m not there
Tell her other sister Betsy
To pray the sinner’s prayer

I got a restless fever
Burnin’ in my brain
Got to keep ridin’ forward
Can’t spoil the game
The same way I leave here
Will be the way that I came
Got a restless fever
Burnin’ in my brain

Mr. Policeman
Can you help me find my gal
Last time I saw her
Was at the Magnolia Hotel
If you help me find her
You can be my pal
Mr. Policeman
Can you help me find my gal

If you ever go to Austin
Fort Worth or San Antone
Find the bar rooms I got lost in
And send my memories home
Put my tears in a bottle
Screw the top on tight
If you ever go to Houston
You better walk right


8 posted on 08/15/2009 2:13:01 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
I don’t know NJ’s laws, but someone had called the cops on Dylan so the female cop was suspicious of him and actually thought he was a nut for claiming he was Dylan...but had no ID. She didn’t arrest him, she gave him a ride to his bus so he could produce the ID, even though she thought he was feeding her a line of bull.

Well I did know someone called the cops on him but the officer needs to determine himself/herself if the call is valid and there is reasonable suspicion. Prank calls happen all the time.

One story said neither officer even recognized the name (because they were young) but sounds like this one disagreed with that. If true, that might give them reasonable suspicion.

Of course with my defiant nature I am not sure what I would do. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
9 posted on 08/15/2009 2:20:43 PM PDT by microgood
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To: pissant

WANDERING WHILE WHITE...!


10 posted on 08/15/2009 2:22:42 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: pissant

Were the officers BLACK? This story has RUSH written allllll over it..!


11 posted on 08/15/2009 2:24:47 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: microgood

“I agree with you about Gates but this cop broke the law. You have to have reasonable suspicion to detain someone and he did not.”

Exactly what I was thinking. Since when do the cops have the right to even QUESTION you if all you’re doing is walking down the street - much less refuse to let you go on your way once you answer their questions? Regardless of what it feels like with these Socialist Pigs in power - we’re not in Nazi Germany YET, and we don’t HAVE to carry our “papers” with us to prove who we are and what our business is... or DO WE???


12 posted on 08/15/2009 2:25:04 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: microgood

Frequently whites who turn up in poor black neighborhoods are there to do drug deals or are looking for prostitutes, which is obviously what the resident who reported him thought. The police often detain them long enough to get their ID because this discourages them from coming back and encouraging problem behavior in these neighborhoods, which the law abiding residents do not like. The residents often request this from “community policing” programs.

That said, Dylan acted in a very civilized, non-celeb manner. None of this “Do you know who I am?” from him!


13 posted on 08/15/2009 2:25:04 PM PDT by livius
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To: pissant

All Bob had to do was to start ‘singing’ for them.

The cops would have fled the scene asap.


14 posted on 08/15/2009 2:25:46 PM PDT by J40000
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To: pissant

Those police officers acted stupidly

didn’t they Obambi?


15 posted on 08/15/2009 2:33:52 PM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: livius
The police often detain them long enough to get their ID because this discourages them from coming back and encouraging problem behavior in these neighborhoods, which the law abiding residents do not like. The residents often request this from “community policing” programs.

True, but it does not make it legal. And without reasonable suspicion, it is not.
16 posted on 08/15/2009 2:34:22 PM PDT by microgood
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To: pissant
Dylan used to hang in Long Branch way back

Take the train down from the city

Get sick get well hang around the Inkwell

The Inkwell was a coffee house/nightclub on the north end of town ... became Mumford's restaurant I think

.

17 posted on 08/15/2009 2:37:44 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: J40000

LOL! Very witty reply.. you think like I do except quicker. Bob seems like a gentleman, but I don’t understand how anyone could listen to the guy.. I never could!


18 posted on 08/15/2009 2:47:11 PM PDT by ropin71 (God Bless our Troops!)
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To: freespirited

“Wandering While White.”

ROFLMAO!

That’s a good one.

My goodness, the man is 68! What on earth is wrong with him taking a stroll.

I’m glad he was polite, and yes, it is amazing this did not make the news.


19 posted on 08/15/2009 2:59:20 PM PDT by jocon307 (write to Obama & Co: flag@whitehouse.gov. tell 'em how they're doing)
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To: J40000

“All Bob had to do was to start ‘singing’ for them.

The cops would have fled the scene asap.”

LOL! That’s what my daughter (who does a killer imitation) would say!


20 posted on 08/15/2009 3:01:17 PM PDT by jocon307 (write to Obama & Co: flag@whitehouse.gov. tell 'em how they're doing)
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To: pissant

Once upon a time you dressed so fine
You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didnt you?
Peopled call, say, beware doll, youre bound to fall
You thought they were all kiddin you
You used to laugh about
Everybody that was hangin out
Now you dont talk so loud
Now you dont seem so proud
About having to be scrounging for your next meal.

How does it feel
How does it feel
To be without a home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?


21 posted on 08/15/2009 3:02:20 PM PDT by almcbean
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To: J40000

Not purty enuff fer ye?

Dylan’s art is far more than a conventually pretty voice. He is the greatest song writer in American history and a great performer of his music as well. His songs tell stories and he is a great story teller in the tradition of Leadbelly, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Jimmy Reed, Lighting Hopkins and Big Bill Broonzy.


22 posted on 08/15/2009 3:03:27 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: Markos33

[Never heard of Bob Dylan? Man I’m getting old.]

I tell people I worked with Joan Baez’s mother in a bookstore and hung with some of Mimi Farina’s friends. I could just as well be from Planet X in the Zorg galaxy.


23 posted on 08/15/2009 3:06:40 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: pissant

Media trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill again.

Dylan wasn’t “detained”. He was merely asked for ID.while lurking around a not so nice hood.


24 posted on 08/15/2009 3:10:33 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: J40000
All Bob had to do was to start ‘singing’ for them. The cops would have fled the scene asap.

Best funny lines of recent times. Thanks for the laugh.

25 posted on 08/15/2009 3:12:48 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman (Luke 23:31)
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To: ropin71

There is more to being a great singer than just having a great voice. Although Dylan has plenty of songs which are not sung in his typical raspy sound. Whole albums of them in fact.


26 posted on 08/15/2009 3:15:30 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: microgood
A second officer, also in his 20s, responded to assist the first officer. He, too, apparently was unfamiliar with Dylan, Woolley said.

So what. Is it a requirement that Cops know who leftwing moonbats demi god rock stars are?

And the cop did have a right to ask him for ID. He was lurking around where a person normally wouldn't, which is cause for suspicion.

27 posted on 08/15/2009 3:16:04 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: pissant

Well, my sons knew about this the day after it happened, so we can’t really say it wasn’t reported. Obviously, there’s no way scream “racism” when an old white guy is detained, so there’s clearly no story here.........


28 posted on 08/15/2009 3:17:51 PM PDT by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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To: freespirited
Wandering While White.

I got nabbed at a family reunion picnic. I'm an extremely hideous looking guy and one of my wife's cousins decided I was out of place at the gathering and confronted me. It was awkward.

29 posted on 08/15/2009 3:20:14 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Media trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill again. Dylan wasn’t “detained”. He was merely asked for ID.while lurking around a not so nice hood.

BZZZZZZZ.

WRONG.

He was escorted to his hotel to confirm who he said he was. If he hadn't been Bob Dylan, I bet they would have arrested him. Yet he was still a gentleman unlike Gates.

30 posted on 08/15/2009 3:23:03 PM PDT by TNLawyer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,")
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To: Nathan Zachary
Is it a requirement that Cops know who leftwing moonbats demi god rock stars are?

Not at all. Being an ignorant dumbass is perfectly acceptable.

31 posted on 08/15/2009 3:25:13 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Glenn

Yeah, sounds kinda awkward. What did he say when you proved who you were?


32 posted on 08/15/2009 3:28:36 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
What did he say when you proved who you were?

He was smug. Go figure.

33 posted on 08/15/2009 3:30:08 PM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: Glenn

Wow. Some people..


34 posted on 08/15/2009 3:31:37 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Nathan Zachary
And the cop did have a right to ask him for ID. He was lurking around where a person normally wouldn't, which is cause for suspicion.

I saw nothing in the article that indicates he was doing anything suspicious. And the Supreme Court has specifically stated you cannot use race as an issue in determining whether to stop someone (black in white neighborhood or vice versa). From the information in all the articles I have read, the cops broke the law. A very common occurence in this country.
35 posted on 08/15/2009 3:42:39 PM PDT by microgood
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To: FastCoyote
I tell people I worked with Joan Baez’s mother in a bookstore and hung with some of Mimi Farina’s friends.

Including Thomas Pynchon?

36 posted on 08/15/2009 4:37:48 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Glenn
I got nabbed at a family reunion picnic. I'm an extremely hideous looking guy and one of my wife's cousins decided I was out of place at the gathering and confronted me. It was awkward.

You aren't telling the whole story, you were also in a bad mood and harassing the women, I snagged this photo of you when you weren't looking.

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

37 posted on 08/15/2009 4:59:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: pissant

Using common sense, match subject to reaction by drawing lines

Subject Reaction


1. rock legend A. screaming, profanity, WH luncheon

2. teacher B. shuffling, giggling, mollifying statements


38 posted on 08/15/2009 5:12:33 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: pissant

Apparently in NJ you can’t walk down the street without the cops having RAS to terry stop you. Sad.

I’d bet a shiney new nickel that the ride back to the buss to get ID’d wasn’t voluntary. The title should read “Bob Dylan Arrested by cops week after gates....” Just because he wasn’t charged doesn’t mean he wasn’t unlawfully arrested.


39 posted on 08/15/2009 6:26:06 PM PDT by Dayman (My 1919a4 is named Charlotte. When I light her up she has the voice of an angel.)
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To: microgood

The reasonable suspicion is that a resident called in. Soliciting prostitution is illegal, and so is purchasing drugs.


40 posted on 08/15/2009 7:49:44 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius
The reasonable suspicion is that a resident called in.

Nope. The cop has to make their own determination. They had no reason.

Soliciting prostitution is illegal, and so is purchasing drugs.

So if you walk around a neighborhood, you are either soliciting prostitution or purchasing drugs. How about getting some fresh air or doing what Bob Dylan was doing. He was reminiscing as he lived in that place when he was younger.

It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees.
41 posted on 08/15/2009 8:12:34 PM PDT by microgood
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To: pissant

Oh man he really mst feel old tonight after he realized that her Grandmother might’ve instantly recognized him! ;)


42 posted on 08/15/2009 8:18:03 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: pissant

OK so we know the neighborhood was black.

We know the suspicious guy was white.

We DO NOT know the race of the cops. It wouldn’t tell us anything conclusive, but it’s still relevant, and it’s conspicuous by omission.


43 posted on 08/15/2009 8:58:18 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: arrogantsob

Well, maybe back in the day.. but now I doubt that. Janis Joplin is another one I never could tolerate. Now Tom Waits, him I don’t mind..


44 posted on 08/15/2009 9:12:39 PM PDT by ropin71 (God Bless our Troops!)
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To: TChad

[Including Thomas Pynchon?]

No, I was hot for a French folksinger friend of the Baez’s named Martine Habib though.


45 posted on 08/15/2009 10:47:45 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: pissant

Bob Dylan Blowin’ In the Wind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ced8o50G9kg


46 posted on 08/15/2009 10:55:15 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima
Hi Bob,Fame sucks.Interviews feel like they are ripping pieces of flesh of you.((((((Hugs)))))))

Bob Dylan - Knockin’ on Heaven's Door (1976-Hard Rain)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GNearEuncU&feature=related

47 posted on 08/15/2009 11:19:20 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: parsifal

You’re just trying to score some free beer.


48 posted on 08/15/2009 11:50:59 PM PDT by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: gaijin

they are white


49 posted on 08/16/2009 12:30:01 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: FastCoyote
No, I was hot for a French folksinger friend of the Baez’s named Martine Habib though.

I had never heard of her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3L3voLFJQ

Pretty voice, she sounds similar to Baez.

50 posted on 08/16/2009 1:18:03 AM PDT by TChad
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