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1 posted on 08/15/2009 7:35:01 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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Bookmarking this one. Looking forward to reading the comments. Thanks for the post RobinMasters.


2 posted on 08/15/2009 7:41:03 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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This 'Nam vet will buy it! We were kickin' @$$ when I left, whatever Uncle Walter said!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
3 posted on 08/15/2009 7:42:50 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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My research tells me that we should have won the Vietnam War in 1968 when the USA kicked their butts around and chased them back to the north during the TET offensive.

Our military was so much better than theirs. It was equal to a game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the TCU horned frogs,

but politicians wouldn’t let our guys win the war,

am I right ?


4 posted on 08/15/2009 7:44:32 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: RobinMasters; Neil E. Wright; dcwusmc
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7 posted on 08/15/2009 7:48:48 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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"What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it. But we were elated to notice your media were definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!"
-often attributed to General Giap, North Vietnam
15 posted on 08/15/2009 8:14:04 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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In the same vein, I'd recommend Lewis Sorley's A Better War. It chronicles the war as conducted by the late Gen. Creighton Abrams, and documents its best-kept secret: we won. By 1973 we had utterly destroyed the Vietcong, and had neutralized the NVA's ability to conduct offensive warfare. On top of our battlefield success, Nixon's '72 Linebacker raids caused deep damage to the communist regime leaving Hanoi "on the ropes". Thus, the '73 accords.

The loss of Vietnam came only later, after we had essentially left the field and ceased to support the RVN logistically. Given that support, it's entirely possible that the RVN might still exist. If only Watergate hadn't happened...

17 posted on 08/15/2009 8:19:59 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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Calling it a night. Will check back in the AM.

Since I am a USAF Colonel’s daughter, here is one of my favorite videos.

A tribute to the USAF:

http://www.media-magik.com/usaf.html


21 posted on 08/15/2009 8:39:37 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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The U.S. and the SVN were winning the VN war. The Democrat Congress lost it all when they chose to eliminate funding for continued supplies of ammo, etc. to the SVN AFTER they forced the withdrawal of U.S. force. We would have won it much earlier if the left had not forced an end to the bombing of the North.


25 posted on 08/15/2009 9:06:18 PM PDT by Rembrandt
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My wife and I know people from South Vietnam who now live in our community. These are people who survived horrible carnage in refugee camps. They experienced hardship very few of us born in this country are capable of imagining. The friends we know who made it here from South Vietnam are some of the hardest working most patriotic conservative Americans we know.

We have another friend who was my hang glider instructor; he was a Green Beret and was deployed as an adviser early in the war. He told me of the tremendous courage and heroism of the young Vietnamese men that he trained and helped lead in battle. These were amazing stories. I will be looking for Richard Botkin’s book.


30 posted on 08/15/2009 9:46:54 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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I am an Army brat. My Dad was a Special Forces Advisor in Viet Nam circa 1960 - 61.In 1969 when I joined the USAF, he steered me away from the Army & Marines because he felt they were being sacrificed for political expediency by politicians instead of allowing the military to prosecute the war as it saw fit.He blamed Kennedy in large part for allowing Diem to be assassinated and thereby inviting aggression by the North and Johnson for trying to play general - totally mismanaging the war. The US military never lost a major battle & Tet was a complete defeat for the VC & NVA.Our politicians once again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory as they continue to do today.
31 posted on 08/15/2009 10:08:12 PM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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God bless our men who fought in Vietnam.

I grew up watching the Vietnam War on the 7:00 pm News, with Cronkite and the like.

Our men didn't nearly win the war, they DID their part, but the politicians and the MSM undermined them and stole victory from their grasps.

The Politicians and the MSM of that era have the blood of Americas finest sons on their hands.

May they both suffer their portion of the fires of hell.

33 posted on 08/15/2009 10:22:40 PM PDT by Semper Mark (ObamaCare: A Funeral Directors delight.)
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As bad as Obama is, it would have been worse if Kerry won in 2004 because he would of made Iraq another Vietnam.

Unfortunately Obama still may do so.

34 posted on 08/15/2009 10:35:53 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (...and never forget that!)
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MACV Team 14, 1970 - 71. I never felt or will feel that we were wrong, or that we were defeated. It was scum like those in power today that lost the war.


35 posted on 08/15/2009 10:41:37 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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