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Twilight: Giving heed to fables
believersingrace.com ^ | May 25 2009 | Bill Randles

Posted on 08/18/2009 11:43:02 AM PDT by pastorbillrandles

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To: TheThirdRuffian
It’s probably familiar because you read it in a book and thought it was real.

No, it's familiar because it is a common tactic liberals use when they don't "like" an argument but cannot refute it. Thus, they resort to personal attacks.

Keep it up. It speaks so well of you.

101 posted on 08/18/2009 2:49:28 PM PDT by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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To: pastorbillrandles
Interesting since the original vampire story was the idea of the vampire was an allegory of sin: it is seductive, addictive, it's deadly or slowly consumes, it is unable to operate under light or "the light destroys" it, not to mention most sin is committed after the sun goes down, once corrupted it is almost impossible to free oneself from it and look what was used to fight the vampire: the cross, holy watter, sunlight etc....There is more to the allegory I just don't remember all the points but it is a very distinct lesson on sin.

We are really receiving a terrible education these days...Twilight does not give heed to fables, fables taught a lesson.

102 posted on 08/18/2009 2:58:12 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: TheThirdRuffian

“C.S. Lewis’s Narnia stories -— now classic Christian allegories”

Not by my definition of “Christian” - what’s yours? Mine is “a little Christ”.

Can you see Jesus curled up with an occult novel? Would he say to the twelve, “Hey, guys. I read this really cool book about this fantasy place called Narnia. You oughta read it, too!”.


103 posted on 08/18/2009 3:14:09 PM PDT by RoadTest (In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God.)
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To: RoadTest
Can you see Jesus curled up with an occult novel? Would he say to the twelve, “Hey, guys. I read this really cool book about this fantasy place called Narnia. You oughta read it, too!”.

can you see Jesus sitting in his pj's in front of his computer posting on FR?

104 posted on 08/18/2009 3:17:58 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: RoadTest
Can you see Jesus curled up with an occult novel?

i meant to add, can you see Jesus curled up with any kind of novel? what kind?

105 posted on 08/18/2009 3:19:05 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: RoadTest
>Can you see Jesus curled up with an occult novel?

I can't see Jesus
changing the batteries in
His Bluetooth wireless

mouse, nonetheless I
will continue using my
Bluetooth wireless mouse.

106 posted on 08/18/2009 4:27:21 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Recovering Hermit

Yikes! That brings back some bad childhood nightmares.


107 posted on 08/18/2009 5:42:38 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Mister Fleas

I liked this part of the same review:

“I’m going to try to condense my irritation with Bella into a series of points:
* She’s ridiculously clumsy, which is meant to be a fault, is passed off as charming, but basically just gives her an asinine reason not to run so Edward can save her.
* She “falls in love” with Edward within weeks of knowing him, and after a couple hundred pages, if he even mentions leaving, she hyperventilates and acts like her world will freaking collapse. Stalking is illegal in all 50 states, Bella.
* Whenever Eddikens so much as barely brushes his lips with hers, she either tries to rip his clothes off (natural) or her heart stops beating and she passes out. The girl hit the floor so many times in this book she put Giles to shame.

Which brings me to Edward. Angsty telepathic vampire Edward. While we have very little clear idea what Bella looks like, we get to hear about Eddiken’s gorgeous, transcendental face and body over and over and over again. He’s impossibly frustrating because he’s been crammed with so many character traits, depending entirely on what the author wants him to be like at the time. He calls himself a monster and thinks he should have died all those years ago, but then totally lords his awesomeness over the mundane humans. And he is awesome. Lest you forget it, he’s even awesomer than the rest of his vampire family at everything.

But the worst part about Edward is how he treats Bella. He is initially attracted to her because her smell is particularly attractive to him (okay, I’ll bite) and because he can’t read her thoughts. (Trust me, Eddikens, I’m lookin’ right at ‘em, and there ain’t nothin’ up there worth wondering about.) He knows he’s a danger to her (woe!) and tells her straight off that it’s better if they not be around each other (sorrow!)...and then he proceeds to hang all over her! He berates himself once every few pages for putting her in danger but never has the guts to fix the matter because he “just can’t stay away from her” and “[she’s his] life now.” *wretch*”


108 posted on 08/18/2009 5:56:49 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: RoadTest
“C.S. Lewis’s Narnia stories -— now classic Christian allegories”

Not by my definition of “Christian” - what’s yours? Mine is “a little Christ”.


If you haven't read the Narnia series, you're missing out, although it is more geared for young adults. But, to address your assertion that there is no Christ in the series to make it Christian, I offer you this spoiler: Aslan the Lion was Christ. I don't mean he was a metaphor for Christ, I mean he was Christ. It's only that in Narnia he appeared as a lion. In the human world, he appeared as a man. This is made quite clear in the series. Also, in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, Aslan had to sacrifice himself to save the humans from their sins. Then he rose again. Sound familiar?
109 posted on 08/18/2009 6:00:05 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: theFIRMbss

“I can’t see Jesus
changing the batteries in
His Bluetooth wireless

mouse, nonetheless I
will continue using my
Bluetooth wireless mouse.”

You’re not paying attention at all.


110 posted on 08/19/2009 4:47:54 AM PDT by RoadTest (In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God.)
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To: fr_freak

#1 There’s no such thing as Narnia

#2 Jesus said there’d be false Christs, and we’re not being disappointed.


111 posted on 08/19/2009 4:49:39 AM PDT by RoadTest (In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God.)
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To: Dianna
I'm appalled that young girls find this type of exploitation of a damaged teenager by an older, very powerful man to be romantic.

A little Nabokov, anyone?

112 posted on 08/19/2009 6:51:03 AM PDT by dmz
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To: RoadTest

The definition of Christian is a follower of Christ.

I have no idea if he’d enjoy a good book.

Christ did speak in allegories, on purpose, in fact, so the method has been in use for a long time.

Humorless dour Christians like you do more harm to the spreading of the Gospel than anything I can think of. Who would want to be like you? A miserable, sad, person.


113 posted on 08/20/2009 8:02:05 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Defend America from the Communist.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

“Humorless dour Christians like you do more harm to the spreading of the Gospel than anything I can think of. Who would want to be like you? A miserable, sad, person.”

Huh? What? Who are you talking about? I gather that you’re casting me in a preconceived mold of something you heard or read about. Your description doesn’t fit me.

You have yet to discover the joy of a direct relationship with God in Christ Jersus. Once you do, you will put away your fiction because the reality is so much better.

The joy of the Lord is my strength. It can be yours, too.


114 posted on 08/20/2009 12:02:24 PM PDT by RoadTest (The Truth shall make you free)
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To: RoadTest

“You have yet to discover the joy of a direct relationship with God in Christ Jersus. Once you do, you will put away your fiction because the reality is so much better.”

So God doesn’t want us to read fiction stories?

That’s is perhaps the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.


115 posted on 08/20/2009 1:13:07 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Defend America from the Communist.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

“So God doesn’t want us to read fiction stories?”

You read whatever you want to read. I’m not God. If you want His direction, ask Him. And read His book.


116 posted on 08/21/2009 4:16:20 AM PDT by RoadTest (The Truth shall make you free)
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To: RoadTest

I do read his book. Every day.

Reading fiction does not interfere with that, any more than playing with my children.


117 posted on 08/21/2009 7:52:25 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Defend America from the Communist.)
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To: pastorbillrandles

Abortion. Drug abuse. Rampant promiscuity. The majority of Americans spiritually illiterate. Suicides. Depression.

All this going on, and the best you can do for the Master is to post that you don’t like vampire stories?

With all respect, Pastor, Jesus’ last orders for His people was to go into all the earth and make disciples of all men. Everything we do should directly flow from that order. With all due respect. I don’t see how this could possibly relate.


118 posted on 08/21/2009 8:25:20 AM PDT by Terabitten (Vets wrote a blank check, payable to the Constitution, for an amount up to and including their life.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I’m glad to hear it.


119 posted on 08/21/2009 9:09:59 AM PDT by RoadTest (The Truth shall make you free)
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To: Terabitten

Thanks Tera, but the standard of christian discernment and teaching has everything to do with the problems you cite, for the church is the only valid witness to the society plagued by these problems, and an idoloatrous and badly compromised church is an anemic witness.


120 posted on 09/08/2009 11:53:20 AM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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