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Oklahoma abortion law overturned (Required women to view ultrasound of baby before killing it)
Los Angeles Times ^ | August 19, 2009

Posted on 08/19/2009 3:35:44 AM PDT by Zakeet

An Oklahoma judge on Tuesday overturned a state law that required women seeking an abortion to receive an ultrasound and a doctor's description of the fetus.

Oklahoma County District Judge Vicki Robertson said the law violated constitutional requirements that a legislative measure deal only with one subject. She did not rule on the validity of the ultrasound provisions.

Her ruling also overturned provisions in the law that allowed doctors and other healthcare providers to refuse to take part in an abortion for moral or religious reasons, required certain signs to be placed in clinics where abortions are performed, and prohibited wrongful-life lawsuits arguing that a disabled child would have been better off aborted.

Special Assistant Atty. Gen. Teresa Collett said she would meet with state officials to discuss whether to appeal. The law was passed in 2008, but legal action has prevented it from going into effect.

A Tulsa clinic filed suit in October challenging the ultrasound provision, arguing that the law was unconstitutionally vague and was not clear about what a doctor should tell a woman undergoing the ultrasound.

Stephanie Toti, an attorney for the Center for Reproductive Rights, said Oklahoma was the only state to mandate that a physician both conduct an ultrasound and describe the images to the patient.

"The ultrasound provision takes away a patient's choice about whether or not to view an ultrasound, and it requires physicians to provide information to their patients that the physicians do not believe is medically necessary," Toti said. "It's an affront to women's autonomy and decision-making power, and it's also an intrusion to the physician-patient relationship."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: abortion; absolutemorals; babykilling; informedconsent; ruling
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1 posted on 08/19/2009 3:35:44 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Maybe they can simply rename the procedure.....end of life counselling.


2 posted on 08/19/2009 4:01:51 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Zakeet
Oklahoma needs to declare their sovereignty as a state in these United States and then ban abortion completely rather than use those backdoor tactics....just my $0.02.
3 posted on 08/19/2009 4:13:43 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Zakeet

“Oklahoma County District Judge Vicki Robertson said the law violated constitutional requirements that a legislative measure deal only with one subject.”

What multiple subjects did this deal with? Sounds like it dealt with killing kids.


4 posted on 08/19/2009 4:14:26 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: Carley

I pray that all these liberal judges undergo “end of life” counselling sometime very soon. (Pray Psalms 109:8 for them)


5 posted on 08/19/2009 4:14:59 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Zakeet
Oklahoma County District Judge Vicki Robertson said the law violated constitutional requirements that a legislative measure deal only with one subject.

You could use this to void every law on the books. I bet this is the first time the judge seen fit to impose this rule.

6 posted on 08/19/2009 4:15:18 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Zakeet

“The ultrasound provision takes away a patient’s choice about whether or not to view an ultrasound, and it requires physicians to provide information to their patients that the physicians do not believe is medically necessary,” Toti said. “It’s an affront to women’s autonomy and decision-making power, and it’s also an intrusion to the physician-patient relationship.” The choice to view an ultrasound of a fetus implies that there may be a change in decision. Since the potential for this is inherent when a woman sees that the ultrasound reveals a human form, a threat is presented to women like Ms. Toti who makes a living from representing the ultimate in self absorbed debauchery. Evidently, it is not a medical necessity either for the doctor to inform the woman exactly what she is doing. That would take away the woman’s right to make believe she did not participate in making a life nor her eagerness to then kill it. Despicable people.


7 posted on 08/19/2009 4:16:53 AM PDT by sueuprising
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To: Carley

I agree, although death panel sounds more . . . accurate


8 posted on 08/19/2009 4:51:08 AM PDT by healy61
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To: sueuprising
“The ultrasound provision takes away a patient’s choice about whether or not to view an ultrasound, and it requires physicians to provide information to their patients that the physicians do not believe is medically necessary,” Toti said.

So fully informed consent is apparently not "medically necessary" now.

9 posted on 08/19/2009 4:54:25 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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"The ultrasound provision takes away a patient's choice about whether or not to view an ultrasound,

they don't have a "choice". It is the LAW!

10 posted on 08/19/2009 4:56:50 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Carley

Put a single sentence into the paperwork they have to sign saying: “I acknowledge that I am voluntarily terminating a human life. Initial here_____________”


11 posted on 08/19/2009 4:56:51 AM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: Always Right
You could use this to void every law on the books

I think this only applies for OK State Constitutional Amendments.

I bet this is the first time the judge seen fit to impose this rule.

Nope. It's been done a number of times before, IIRC.

12 posted on 08/19/2009 4:58:52 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: Zakeet

“wrongful-life lawsuits “

Newspeak.


13 posted on 08/19/2009 5:11:08 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Question Marxist Authority)
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To: Zakeet

“Oklahoma County District Judge Vicki Robertson said the law violated constitutional requirements that a legislative measure deal only with one subject.”

Rule on a “technicality” so you don’t have to reveal your underlying bias and pro-abort stance.


14 posted on 08/19/2009 5:13:06 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Question Marxist Authority)
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To: Vaquero

I agree, although that bill would end many abortions, in a way, it really validates baby murder. It just needs to be ended and the doctors doing it need to be put on trial and executed.


15 posted on 08/19/2009 5:14:37 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: sueuprising

If you think about it, if abortion is a right,and there’s nothing wrong with it, why have these restrictions? Of course we know it’s murder, which means there’s no legislation necessary and the FBI needs to be sent to catch the doctors, AND women, who are doing this.


16 posted on 08/19/2009 5:17:32 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Zakeet

The babies lose another one. Who will stand up for the babies?


17 posted on 08/19/2009 5:24:06 AM PDT by RoadTest (The Truth shall make you free)
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To: RoadTest

My, she had to scrounge hard to find an excuse for that one.


18 posted on 08/19/2009 5:31:12 AM PDT by gthog61
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To: Grunthor

Judge Vicki sounds like one of those abortion fanatics who can’t start her week without one.


19 posted on 08/19/2009 5:33:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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which means there’s no legislation necessary and the FBI needs to be sent to catch the doctors, AND women, who are doing this.

first off, a liberal supreme court declared it not only legal, but a woman's right. A prime example of legislating from the Bench. They were wrong but that does not change the current law. Secondly, leave the feds (FBI) out of this and make it a states rights issues...Your state has a better chance of making it illegal than lets say my state of NY.

If you want to execute doctors and women, this can only happen after the laws are changed....(I do agree it is murder....but their are legal and moral definitions of murder)

20 posted on 08/19/2009 5:38:17 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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