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Seattle mayor fights to hang onto job
FoxProvidence ^ | 08/20/2009 | Associated Press

Posted on 08/20/2009 6:44:07 PM PDT by Robwin

Seattle (AP) - Seattle Mayor Greg Nickels has been hailed as a visionary and a leader on environmental issues, helping persuade nearly 1,000 mayors around the country to abide by the standards of the Kyoto Protocol on global warming.

But an environmental issue of a more basic sort — the city's inability to clear streets during paralyzing snowstorms last winter — might have set the stage for his political undoing.

Nickels narrowly trails two challengers following Tuesday's primary and is at serious risk of not advancing to the general election in November, potentially ending his eight-year run at City Hall.

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But the city's response to a series of three snowstorms last December helped focus voters' discontent with his leadership.

Over a two-week span, the storms dumped 14 inches of snow on a city that rarely sees that much. Given a relative lack of plows, steep hills and a stubborn refusal to salt roadways, the city all but shut down, with main streets undrivable and bus service curtailed.

A Seattle Times investigation revealed that the city held some plows in reserve even as neighborhoods complained of snowbound paralysis, and Transportation Department officials focused snow removal efforts disproportionately in West Seattle, where Nickels lives.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: demprimary; enviromentalwackos; gregnickels; mayor; seattle; snowstorm
A typical Liberal. Totally out of touch with the average person's actual everyday needs while at the same time making sure he's well taken care of.

Will West Siders ever learn?

1 posted on 08/20/2009 6:44:09 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: sionnsar

ping


2 posted on 08/20/2009 6:44:55 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: Robwin

Yep. They get in front of the cameras with all these collateral issues while ignoring basic services


3 posted on 08/20/2009 6:46:03 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Robwin

Good riddance to that idiot. They don’t get much worse.


4 posted on 08/20/2009 6:47:15 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Robwin

I have had a bellyfull of the liberal dogmas.
Obama, the wallet of the US is empty. You lose.
Leave and take your ilk with you.


5 posted on 08/20/2009 6:48:03 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama - The wolf in the suit.)
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To: Robwin

Just a small personal note regarding Seattle last winter. I was there when they had one of the storms with just a few inches of snow. It was both amusing and disquieting to watch the city come to a near complete grinding halt. Freeways clogged. Vehicles abandoned. It was amazing to witness.


6 posted on 08/20/2009 6:49:00 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: Robwin
Statistically he can't get enough votes to get a spot on the fall ballot. In fact, he is so far behind that he won't even merit an automatic recount.

He's gone. It's over.

7 posted on 08/20/2009 6:49:03 PM PDT by Publius (Conservatives aren't always right. We're just right most of the time.)
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To: Robwin
focused snow removal efforts disproportionately in West Seattle, where Nickels lives.

Of course...

8 posted on 08/20/2009 6:51:16 PM PDT by John123 (My Definition of Liberals - Folks who validates their existence by calling someone a racist.)
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To: Robwin
Over a two-week span, the storms dumped 14 inches of snow on a city that rarely sees that much...During the year and-a-half I spent in Seattle, a two inch snowfall was considered a catastrophe - anybody hapless enough to be unable to deal with such a triviality should be removed from office......
9 posted on 08/20/2009 6:54:39 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Robwin

These people are all for liberalism until it suddenly affects them. No doubt that the voters of Seattle supported Nickels when he was pushing crap beyond his scope of office but reality is a mutha———. So sick of Mayors taking up causes like global warming or banning guns when they can’t provide basic services.


10 posted on 08/20/2009 6:54:48 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: WeatherGuy; CBF; x_plus_one; Libertina; sportutegrl; kayti; narses; Avid Coug; RedinaBlue; ...
Thanks to Robwin for the ping.

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11 posted on 08/20/2009 6:58:01 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Have to love the irony of a global warming nut being done in by a snowstorm.


12 posted on 08/20/2009 7:00:11 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: Robwin

So, with Washington state’s “top two” primary system isn’t ‘good ol #3’ out of luck? Won’t he have to win via a write-in?

Or does he have enough mojo with Fraudoire to manufacture a few extra votes?


13 posted on 08/20/2009 7:02:29 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

It’s too late. Ballot box stuffing only works in close elections. He’s falling behind too rapidly to have any kind of shot at it.


14 posted on 08/20/2009 7:03:52 PM PDT by Publius (Conservatives aren't always right. We're just right most of the time.)
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To: Publius
>>>He's gone. It's over. <<<

Promise? Cross your heart and hope to die? He needs to be gone before he can do any more damage on the way to the door.

15 posted on 08/20/2009 7:06:27 PM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
- anybody hapless enough to be unable to deal with such a triviality should be removed from office......

Clearly you know nothing of Seattle and its climate. This just ain't Joisey out here. Our priorities, requirements and necessities are extremely different from Joisey (for all I think Nickels screwed up royally and the stupid city would be better off without him).

16 posted on 08/20/2009 7:08:25 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Publius

Hi Publius!

Do you suppose this article is just “stale bread” or is there some sort of maneuvering going on to keep him in the running “Seattle mayor fights to hang onto job”?


17 posted on 08/20/2009 7:11:37 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Robwin

Isn’t Jean Enerson running for Mayor? How did she do?


18 posted on 08/20/2009 7:12:44 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Robwin

throw the bum out on his a&&


19 posted on 08/20/2009 7:13:29 PM PDT by ezoeni (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov)
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To: Ramius

I don’t think so, but Susan Hutchinson is running for King County Executive - and winning (crosses fingers)...


20 posted on 08/20/2009 7:14:00 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
According to KING-TV, he has fallen far enough behind so as not to trigger the automatic recount.

He has made too many enemies.

The article is out of date.

21 posted on 08/20/2009 7:14:39 PM PDT by Publius (Conservatives aren't always right. We're just right most of the time.)
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To: sionnsar

That’s like the Southerners laughing at us and our 100-degree heat wave.

NOTE TO REST OF U.S.A.—The Pacific NW is NOT like where you live. It’s a very temperate climate. There is no A/C. There aren’t major snowstorms.

Hell, I remember Raleigh, NC, grinding to a halt for about a full week for 22” of snow. I seem to recall NYC getting temperatures in the high 90s, low 100s not too long ago.

Weird weather can happen anywhere.

That being said, Nickels is a complete anti-Constitution jackass who deserves to live on the streets with all the myriad homeless he purposely does nothing about. Good riddance.


22 posted on 08/20/2009 7:14:58 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: sionnsar

I was stationed at Ft. Lewis for fourteen months back in the ‘60’s, and as I remember it we had one snowfall for a total of two inches the first winter (the rest of the time from September ‘til April it rained, of course) - cars were sliding off the roads all over the place, and in fact one civilian who worked in our clinic was slightly injured when her car went into a ditch because of the horrendous driving conditions - Joiseyians panic too when we get snow, but I’ve never seen the kind of chaos here I saw that year in Seattle - fourteen inches in two weeks should be child’s play.....


23 posted on 08/20/2009 7:17:58 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: sionnsar
Our priorities, requirements and necessities are extremely different from Joisey

Do tell.

24 posted on 08/20/2009 7:19:36 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Patrick1
Have to love the irony of a global warming nut being done in by a snowstorm.

LOL!!!!!

25 posted on 08/20/2009 7:21:59 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
Because our winters are temperate and rainy, snow is a rarity, and when it comes, nobody knows how to drive in it.

I arrived at Fort Lewis in December 1971 just in time for the Christmas Blizzard. We got 18 inches, and it stuck around for weeks. The area was paralyzed.

No one knows how to take the hills in the snow.

26 posted on 08/20/2009 7:21:59 PM PDT by Publius (Conservatives aren't always right. We're just right most of the time.)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
During the year and-a-half I spent in Seattle, a two inch snowfall was considered a catastrophe - anybody hapless enough to be unable to deal with such a triviality should be removed from office...

It's true that the city royally fouled their own nest with the recent snowstorms. And not to defend lib mismanagement... But snowfall in Seattle and snowfall back east are two completely different animals. I've been to Chicago, Denver, Jersey, DC, New York in snowstorms. There's at least two HUGE differences: Back there, it's flat. Everywhere. They also salt the roads. When roads get icy in the northwest everything is uphill and downhill, and on steep hills it doesn't matter if the ice is a half-inch thick or a foot thick. It's still a frictionless surface. Salted roads mean that nobody ever really has to drive in snow. All the roads are bare and wet, pretty much all the time. Me, for one... I'm glad they don't salt roads here. The trade-off in rust damage just isn't worth it.

27 posted on 08/20/2009 7:23:20 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Future Snake Eater
NOTE TO REST OF U.S.A.—The Pacific NW is NOT like where you live. It’s a very temperate climate. There is no A/C. There aren’t major snowstorms.

NOTE TO SEATTLE -- Eastern Washington is NOT like where you live. We have A/C. We do get occasional major snowstorms. We have extremes, not moderate weather. We do have and use snow plows. LOL

28 posted on 08/20/2009 7:23:33 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Robwin

Greg: Buh-bye! Maybe now liberalism will die a slow death in Seattle so it can become again what it used to be: a great blue-collar American city. Oh - with more kids than dogs (opposite of what it is now).

Liberalism fails everywhere it is tried. But the insane continue to embrace it.


29 posted on 08/20/2009 7:25:37 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable, and unambiguous clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: Robwin

Nichols was also anti-civilrights.


30 posted on 08/20/2009 7:25:51 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Freedom First in 2010)
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To: steve86

NOTE TO REST OF U.S.A- Bible believing Conservatives with guns wanted. It’s a rich Mission Field


31 posted on 08/20/2009 7:27:00 PM PDT by right way right (Do not mistake Religion for God.)
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To: Robwin

Okay, be fair. How many cities do you know of that are built on steep hills that would survive any better? It is not like Chicago (flat), Bismarck (flat), Kansas City (flat),...you get my drift. Another point is that it would be too expensive to invest in millions of dollars of equipment that would get used at most maybe one or two days a year. Seattle drivers are about the worst in the world, granted, but there are extenuating circumstances that govern snowfall.


32 posted on 08/20/2009 7:28:19 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable, and unambiguous clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: right way right

Sounds like a cry for help! :)


33 posted on 08/20/2009 7:28:54 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable, and unambiguous clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: rockrr
I don’t think so, but Susan Hutchinson is running for King County Executive - and winning (crosses fingers)...

D'OH... that's who I was thinking of. Thanks.

I don't get to vote in KC anyway. I'm in Pierce.

34 posted on 08/20/2009 7:29:34 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Publius
We got 18 inches, and it stuck around for weeks...Got to say eighteen inches would be a paralyzing blizzard even in Joisey.....
35 posted on 08/20/2009 7:30:03 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Ramius

“Salted roads mean that nobody ever really has to drive in snow.”

It also means your car has a limited life...


36 posted on 08/20/2009 7:30:04 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable, and unambiguous clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: Robwin

“Will West Siders ever learn”

‘Not just West Siders. Shirley Franklin(D) Atlanta has only cared about face time during her tenure while the whole infrustructure and budget has rotted beneath her feet and now she begs for bailout money. I’m sure she’ll make obamas list of political appointees soon.


37 posted on 08/20/2009 7:31:57 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: steve86

Congratulations. I never claimed it was. I’ve lived here for more than a day. I know that once you go over the pass, it’s practically a different state climate-wise.


38 posted on 08/20/2009 7:34:16 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Intolerant in NJ; Prokopton; LibreOuMort
fourteen inches in two weeks should be child’s play.....

IF you are accustomed to it. And the climate is right. "Fourteen inches" as the only element displays a lack of knowledge of other factors not always seen elsewhere.

Seattleites know all about arrogant and "intolerant" people - my wife (New England/Sweden -- knows snow better than most of us) was one... until she encountered Seattle conditions. She doesn't laugh anymore.

It gets treacherous here (I'm not going to go into all the reasons why), and an awful lot of folks who simply laugh at Seattleites because *they* know better... end up in the ditch.

A friend who moved here 4 years ago from the Midwest explained it all to me after is first winter here... but I'll just leave this thread to those who know better because they know snow in an environment different from Seattle's and so they are therefore superior drivers overall.

Please come to Seattle in winter and drive like you do back East! Our tow-truck drivers can use the business and it will help boost our economy.

39 posted on 08/20/2009 7:38:19 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: DennisR

Amen!


40 posted on 08/20/2009 9:26:42 PM PDT by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: sionnsar
It gets treacherous here...I and my VW bug drove the ten miles to and from base in the same two inches of snow that seemed to be giving many others problems, and as I remember it it seemed pretty much like snow I'd driven in before and since - I attributed the trouble to the lack of experience in driving in such conditions for many there - but if you want to tell me Seattle snow is different than that in other climes, I certainly wouldn't argue......
41 posted on 08/20/2009 9:55:36 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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