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India discovers Chinese plan to divide country
Spero News ^ | 8/21/2009

Posted on 8/21/2009, 11:51:18 PM by markomalley

An article on a semi-official Chinese site details a roadmap to divide India in 20 or more little states, giving support to nationalists, separatists, Tamilians, Srilankans and Bangladeshis

The government of New Dehli made an official protest for the content of an article appeared on a Chinese site that aims to divide India in “20-30 small states” giving support to guerillas and nationalist movements present on the territory of the great nation or abroad.

Posted on April 8 on the website, iiss.cn (International Institute for Strategic Studies) the article detailed a roadmap for breaking up India. There it is stated: “To split India, China can bring into its fold countries like Pakistan, Nepal and Bhutan, support ULFA in attaining its goal in Assam’ independence, back aspirations of Indian nationalities like Tamil and Nagas, encourage Bangladesh to give a push to the independence of West Bengal and lastly recover the 90,000 sq km territory in southern Tibet.”

The Government of India made inquiries about how much this website has the support of the Chinese Government and logged a protest. The Indian media spoke of a “quasi-official Chinese website”.

This idea of balkanization of India is old as the Indian state itself. After independence, in 1947, in the political circles of Europe many observers were predicting that India, after the tragic start with partition, will not hold together. After all India had never been a single political unit. The British Empire put it together and marked the boundaries from east, north and west. India does not have a common language. Immediately after independence there were internal fighting to redraw the boundaries of the different Indian states. The criterion of division according to the different languages was accepted. But many states are still quarrelling for the boundaries and for the utilization of rivers water.

Chennai and Tamil Nadu are more concerned with Tamilian brothers of Shri Lanka and of Bangalore. The seven states of the north-east consider themselves as colonies under the military rule of Delhi and guerilla is going on in all of them. Kashmir is in turmoil since 25 years for separation or a better autonomy. An in many central states the Maoist-Naxalite guerilla is going on since decades.

All this may give the idea to an outsider that the cohesion of India is very week and its break-up possible. Up till now India had survived doomsday predictions of its balkanization but the Chinese are still harping on it.

The article posted on the website continues: “In view of the above, China in its own interest and the progress of the hole Asia, should join forces with different nationalities like Assamese, Tamil and Kashmiris, and support the latter in establishing independent nation-states of their own, out of India.” And all this must be done for the sake of change and progress in the subcontinent: “Only after India has been broken up into 20-30 pieces will there be any real reform or social change in the country.”

An article like this will convince the hardliners in India about Beijing’s gameplan to encircle India in alliance with regimes in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal, by supporting insurgent groups.

After a few days, following the protest from New Delhi, Kang Lingyi, the founding editor of the www.iiss.cn said that he edits the site on his own without any government backing and the article was a web posting by an anonymous user.

But D S Rajan, director of the Chennai Centre for China Studies, who translated the article from Chinese and published it, said: “The Chinese are speaking to India in several voices. This second voice is part-official but not completely so. It gives the Chinese Government deniability, but there has been a long stream of similar sounding statements”.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: china; india; kaliyuga; subversion
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But the Chinese are totally friendly and not a threat to anybody, right?
1 posted on 8/21/2009, 11:51:18 PM by markomalley
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To: markomalley
China hasn't always been one big homogeneous country either.
2 posted on 8/21/2009, 11:55:37 PM by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas

My thought as well. China should carefully think this out, because more than one nation can play that game.


3 posted on 8/21/2009, 11:57:55 PM by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: Republic of Texas

China has about 50 minority groups, who are generally at the edges of China. This territory would probably take up 40% of what is China now, leaving the Han center.


4 posted on 8/22/2009, 12:08:29 AM by Vince Ferrer
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To: markomalley
Is there anything good to be said about the PRC? It's a dictatorship that has slaughtered millions of it's own citizens, forcibly occupied the nation of Tibet, claims Taiwan and continues to menace it's neighbors. The Chinese Communists are a menace to world peace, no less than the Soviets were.

And yet successive US governments since Nixon have helped this morally bankrupt tyranny into the world community, treated is as a friend to be cherished, and humored it's absurd pretensions to equal standing with the US. Starting with Kissinger's obscene fawning over the mass murderers Chou En-Lai and Mao, to Brent Scowcroft raising a glass with people who killed thousands in Tiananmen Square to Clinton's financial dependence on Chinese donors to our current state, where China lectures us on fiscal policy and drills for oil a few miles off our coasts while we dare not. I don't get it.
5 posted on 8/22/2009, 12:19:20 AM by AnotherUnixGeek
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6 posted on 8/22/2009, 12:33:21 AM by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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Charming. Does this mean they have a similar map for our country? Since our dear president seems to be doing everything in his power to destroy us, it seems a little geography exercise would be the least they could do for a fellow traveler.


7 posted on 8/22/2009, 12:34:10 AM by sanjoaquinvalley (Long time lady lurker.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Is there anything good to be said about the PRC?

Excellent summary. I think China is valuable to the global elite because of it's sheer totalitarian mass. They feel that it can be used as an economic, political and military battering ram against the rest of the world. Even if it implodes from it's own corrupt inefficiency, the elite are hoping it will bring down as much of the West as possible with it's own collapse. In fact, this mutual destruction is probably planned by the elites as well.

The elites need global rubble from which they can build their absolute Borg techno-corporate multinational stronghold, and take over the planet once and for all. Towards this goal, every country and every race are mere useful idiots to them, to be discussed over fava beans and a nice chianti.

8 posted on 8/22/2009, 12:36:11 AM by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: markomalley

Makes sense.

I bet Russia and India have a similar plan for China.


9 posted on 8/22/2009, 12:41:17 AM by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: markomalley

If it works in India, maybe it will work here, because of our idiotic and Balkanizing multicultural policies.


10 posted on 8/22/2009, 12:45:46 AM by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Also, Communist China has never ruled over Taiwan.


11 posted on 8/22/2009, 12:47:13 AM by Tai_Chung
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To: markomalley
This may very well be a "head fake" in that Russia, directly to the north of China, also suffers from "Balkanization" and much of it's eastern territory is under developed and under populated. Russia's population is declining as China's is increasing. China would have a short march into Russian territory, much to gain in natural resources, and perhaps even support from the indigenous population. (Chinese men have been unofficially immigrating for years and have found willing brides due to the scarcity of Russian men.)

Any Chinese meddling in Indian affairs would do little good for them and militarily it's seems foolhardy to think the China would attack India through the Himalayas.

Regards,
GtG

12 posted on 8/22/2009, 12:59:16 AM by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: markomalley

China may wanna think again, the indian army is big and strong enough to put up one hell of a fight.

India is something China does really not want to stick its nose into.


13 posted on 8/22/2009, 1:09:26 AM by sunmars
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To: markomalley

What could be done to India could, um, also be done to China.


14 posted on 8/22/2009, 2:04:25 AM by dr_who
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To: Vince Ferrer

Han is 85 percent of China, while the second largest is probably Manchurian, followed by Tibetans and Turko (Uighurs, etc) and Inner Mongolians. These large non Han represent approx 14 percent of China, while the others as an aggregate is 1 percent total. Problem with China is the Han live in only 40 percent of landmass, but as China’s economy and infrastructure develops, the sparsely populated non Han regions are ripe for Han immigration. Today only a fraction of Han Chinese venture into Sanjing and Tibet and they are already 50 percent of the regions’ population. High speed trains, modern conveniences and open space is starting to attract more Han Chinese to these regions. This is no different from 19th Century US after the railroad allowed city dwellers to settle the West displacing the American Indians. Conflict is inevitable as the two cultures clash, but time and numbers favor the Chinese Hans.


15 posted on 8/22/2009, 2:14:31 AM by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

I agree. Before China embarked on capitalism and modernization in the 1970’s they sent huge number of young students to study in the US. One group was sent especially to study how the US achieved super power status from late 19th Century to post World War II. They concluded that the US astutely avoided wars, and protected by two great oceans were able to concentrate solely on economic development. I think China still has such a group studying the US. They probably see how the US is sapping its economic wealth in debt and aggravating this debt with foreign military adventures. If this turns out to be one of the major reasons that hasten the US’s decline as a super power in the 21st Century, China may take this lesson to heart and emphasize the usage of non military power to undermind their opponents. The exploitation of the internal social weaknesses of an opposing nation is part of the Communist MO involving world liberation movements. In some countries the methods worked well and in some they were ineffective.
Either way, it was a lot cheaper than sending in an army.


16 posted on 8/22/2009, 2:24:45 AM by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Starting with Kissinger's obscene fawning over the mass murderers Chou En-Lai and Mao, to Brent Scowcroft raising a glass with people who killed thousands in Tiananmen Square to Clinton's financial dependence on Chinese donors to our current state, where China lectures us on fiscal policy and drills for oil a few miles off our coasts while we dare not. I don't get it.

American government is in the hands of internationalists. America is being made weaker by globalists and socialists who are driving manufacturing to overseas sweatshops. Manufacturing is the foundation of economic wealth. Overseas globalists and socialists have undermined American manufacturing with the aim of killing our economic strength. Once we lose the economic strength, we lose our military strength.

Wealth equals power and power equals wealth. You are watching the Chinese, oil rich Arabs, and American globalists corrupt out government. Watch how Clinton has made more than a $100,000,000 since finishing his presidency. He give talks, and they give him his kickbacks for having giving them what they wanted when he was in power. By not hiding his payoffs, the next generation of politicians see how the game works. They give deals now, and they collect after office or in secret bank accounts.

As wacky as Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan are, they are right about corporations, Democrats, and Republicans.

17 posted on 8/22/2009, 2:27:38 AM by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: markomalley

The Chinese are first and formost strategists, their aim to controll the world, the problem: even if they owned the whole world (and have neglected their souls), it will do them no good!


18 posted on 8/22/2009, 3:22:41 AM by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: markomalley

Dear ChiComs: Turnabout is fair play. India and other could support separtists movements in China. India’s been united for a couple of hundred of years. China’s been divided within the last 100 years.


19 posted on 8/22/2009, 3:34:10 AM by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Exactly correct.

Outside their borders they have typically set the various tribes against each other, supporting those who need help and taking it away from the ones who are get the upper hand. The last time they lost control of the outer tribes, the Mongols overcame the Turks and the Uighurs, etc. then invaded China, Central Asia and Eastern Europe. This is how the Chinese view the outside world. I think they would do it to us, if they could.


20 posted on 8/22/2009, 3:39:10 AM by MontaniSemperLiberi
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