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Torture-slaying trial, Day 8: Jurors resume deliberations (MSM Refuses to use Hate Crime Label)
News Sentinel ^ | 35 mins ago | staff

Posted on 08/25/2009 7:40:09 AM PDT by jessduntno

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To: BilLies
"The MSM dares not report (or identify) horrendous actions by blacks and other minorities (even if factually true and repetitive)because it would be profiling,and BECAUSE they are concerned with white awareness of how prevalent, nationally, the crimes are. This of course would lead to more white prejudice against minorities."

After hearing about the Carr Brothers trial in Wichita (through FR, and not the regular press), along with several other similar stories in recent years, I'd have to agree.

62 posted on 08/25/2009 10:53:53 AM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: jessduntno

If you had anything, you’d be explaining to me why this incident of which you speak should be classified as a “hate crime”. Instead, you have to make the entire discussion into a penis-measuring contest, as is evidenced by this last post. I don’t need anything with you. This discussion is over. Run along and see if you can get a life.


63 posted on 08/25/2009 10:56:04 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html, http://sites.google.com/site/thevuzvuz/)
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To: RabidBartender; BilLies

Prejudice - prejudging, based on some outwardly noticeable characteristic, leading to increased or decreased caution based on categorical threat assessment.

Prejudice - a survival mechanism that the Good Lord gave us to help us survive in a fallen world.


64 posted on 08/25/2009 10:59:06 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Eleutheria5

When it is White on Black or hetrosexual on homosexual.

The so called “hate crimes” are enforced one way only.


66 posted on 08/25/2009 11:03:55 AM PDT by sport
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To: Eleutheria5
It’s a heinous crime, all right, but there’s nothing in the record to show that these sociopaths wouldn’t have done the same things to a black couple.

Other than the fact that they didn't, of course.

As I said in another thread, the presence of white people in this neighborhood was so rare, that some people commented that the only reason the victims would have been there was to score drugs (as if that somehow justifies the horror they suffered).

Were this a "random crime," it would have, indeed, been perpetrated against a black couple.

It was not. Rather, the predators let thousands and thousands of black potential victims pass by, until a white couple had the misfortune to stumble across their path.

As I also said, I do not support hate crime statutes, but to strip this case of its obvious racial dimension is obscene.

67 posted on 08/25/2009 11:04:24 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Good for Takisha.

Why not a hate crime? If you call a gay person a “name” it is recorded at the FBI as a hate crime “assault”, if it’s reported.

Rape, torture, murder don’t count?

I’m confused.


68 posted on 08/25/2009 11:32:42 AM PDT by wac3rd (80 Carter/Obama 08)
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To: RabidBartender
Thanks, I had not heard of those crimes.

I have started a “BOOKMARK” folder entitled “HATE CRIMES” (with my definition not the Media's) with appropriate sub folders: Legal and Other.

69 posted on 08/25/2009 1:00:25 PM PDT by BilLies
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To: sport

“Enforced”? You’re talking about the MSM’s characterization of a crime. There are statutes on the books somewhere that dictate when the MSM does and doesn’t go into feeding frenzy mode? I could see the MSM passing this one by for a very simple reason, though. The only evidence you have of racial bias comes from the fact of the difference in races. You have nothing else, other than that the perps were sick animals, and that simply doesn’t compute. If the perpetrators, for example, said in front of witnesses, “Let’s go do those white folks,” or later bragged “Those are some white devils who won’t ever own another slave,” I’d see your point. But there’s no there there, and for a change I agree with the MSM.


70 posted on 08/25/2009 1:21:35 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html, http://sites.google.com/site/thevuzvuz/)
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To: Eleutheria5

Don’t go away mad. There have been several articles and threads on this topic before. Most of us already knew the races involved. Blame the newspaper — they are the ones who published the article posted and who seem to be afraid to mention race.

After all, Tennessee was the original home of both Sam Houston and Davy Crockett. They just might have taken justice in their own hands, had this crime happened in the 1800s. And their descendents might try to do the same, if they get too excited. The newspaper may not want to rile the natives.


71 posted on 08/25/2009 2:15:02 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: jessduntno

be definition, white people cannot be the victims of a hate crime. and no, i am not kidding. it’s a fact.


72 posted on 08/25/2009 2:18:51 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

“be definition, white people cannot be the victims of a hate crime. and no, i am not kidding. it’s a fact.”

I think I’d have to see that in writing somewhere...got a link? That would be unconstitutional...something the Rats would practice, but I doubt they would write it down anywhere...


73 posted on 08/25/2009 2:29:12 PM PDT by jessduntno (Privatization + Inter-State Sales + Individual Policies + Tort Reform = Healthcare Reform)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

“Other than the fact that they didn’t, of course.”

You mean in their no doubt long and ignoble career as criminals, they never ever robbed, raped or murdered anyone black? Were they choir boys until this white couple showed up?

As I said in another thread, the presence of white people in this neighborhood was so rare, that some people commented that the only reason the victims would have been there was to score drugs (as if that somehow justifies the horror they suffered).

And those “some people” instructed these lumps to go and tear them to bits? Now you’re dissolving into the ether. Give me something concrete.

“Were this a “random crime,” it would have, indeed, been perpetrated against a black couple.

It was not. Rather, the predators let thousands and thousands of black potential victims pass by, until a white couple had the misfortune to stumble across their path.”

Perhaps they thought that they’d have money because they were white, and got really pissed when they didn’t and ended up going mideival on them in their disappointment (Were they addicts? Were they craving drugs when they broke in? That’s highly material). But I seriously doubt that they never lifted a hand against a black person. Look at their rap sheet. I’m sure they have one.

“As I also said, I do not support hate crime statutes, but to strip this case of its obvious racial dimension is obscene.”

I’m not stripping it of its racial dimension, but to suggest that race is the sole factor involved simply because it’s a factor and was involved to some unknown degree is simplistic, and I don’t buy it. I don’t support hate crime statutes or media designation of hate crimes as such. Therefore I’m not going to complain about their failure to do that in this case. I only wish they failed to do that all the time.


74 posted on 08/25/2009 2:35:48 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html, http://sites.google.com/site/thevuzvuz/)
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To: San Jacinto
Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom -- tortured and killed. According to the article, Christian was tortured, brutalized, mutilated, and suffocated over a 24 hour period. Newsom died quicker, but no less horrifically.
75 posted on 08/25/2009 2:42:10 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: jessduntno; Eleutheria5

Knock it off.


76 posted on 08/25/2009 2:51:36 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: jessduntno

It could’ve been described as torture, except that description only applies to terrorists who gain 20 pounds while detained in comfortable facilities with free medical and dental care.


77 posted on 08/25/2009 3:04:21 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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The crimes happened the day my father died.


78 posted on 08/25/2009 3:35:39 PM PDT by PghBaldy (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/06/president-obama-visits-wounded-troops.html)
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To: Eleutheria5

If it had been White on black it would have been in the headline of every major msm 24/7 since it happened.


79 posted on 08/25/2009 4:19:51 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Eagles6

Yep. There also would haqve been marches and t-shirts and specials on TV. The theme is” black lives are more important than white lives. I fear for the future my young white relatives will live in. It will only get worse. MUCH worse.


80 posted on 08/25/2009 4:51:32 PM PDT by PghBaldy (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/06/president-obama-visits-wounded-troops.html)
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