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US nuclear gurus see signs of more Indian nuclear tests
The Times of India ^ | 28 August 2009 | Chidanand Rajghatta

Posted on 08/27/2009 9:07:39 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

US nuclear gurus see signs of more Indian nuclear tests

Chidanand Rajghatta, TNN 28 August 2009, 05:24am IST

WASHINGTON: US nuclear pundits feel the Indian establishment -- political, scientific, or both in concert – may be lining up to conduct more nuclear tests to validate and improve the country’s arsenal before the Obama administration shuts the door on nuclear explosions.

''You bet he wants to test again,'' said Henry Sokolski, Executive Director of the Washington DC-based Nonproliferation Policy Education Center, when asked about the remarks from a key Indian nuclear scientist suggesting India’s thermonuclear test was not up to mark. ''Imagine you are a nuclear weapons designer who has corrected the mistakes and ironed out the wrinkles. You would be crazy not to want to test again.''

''You have to look at the DNA of a weapons designer. They always want to make the weapons smaller, lighter, more powerful,'' Sokolski added. ''If you blindfold them, tie their hands and leave them in the middle of a forest, they will still make their way to a test site.''

While Sokolski addressed the Indian motivations largely from the technology validation standpoint, Washington has long believed that geo-political objectives rather than scientific or technical metrics drives New Delhi’s nuclear weapons quest. The argument has gotten another boost following the remarks by a key Indian scientist, K.Santhanam, questioning the potency of India’s thermonuclear bomb.

While ''We told you so,'' was pretty much the reaction in the US scientific and strategic community on the renewed controversy over the yield of the thermo-nuclear device in Shakti series of nuclear test arising from remarks by Santhanam, there is lingering suspicion here that the disclosure in politically driven. It’s rare for Indian scientists to break ranks on a sensitive national security issue.

Why would Santhanam go public, with such deliberation, on something that was commonly discussed and widely acknowledged in scientific circles, a decade after the questions first surfaced?

The answer, according to some nuclear pundits mulling on the issue on blogs: To ward off growing American pressure on India to sign various nuclear containment treaties and perhaps enable India to conduct one last series of tests to validate and improve its nuclear arsenal.

In scores of research papers and studies in the immediate weeks and months of the 1998 nuclear tests in Pokhran, US scientists repeatedly questioned the reported yield of the thermo-nuclear device, saying it was well below India’s claim of 43-45 kilotons. In fact, some scientists, notably Terry Wallace, then with the University of Arizona and now attached to the Los Alamos National Laboratory, put the combined yield of the three May 11 tests at as low as 10 to 15 kilotons.

Two other tests on May 13 involved sub-kiloton devices for tactical weapons, which US scientists doubted even took place. Even the six nuclear tests claimed by Pakistan were treated with derision, with US scientists saying only two of them involved nuclear devices.

''This is quite clearly a case where governments tested for a political reason rather than scientific reasons, so we have to be suspicious of what they say,'' Wallace, the country’s top nuclear seismology expert, had said about the reported yields.

On Thursday, suspicion lingered in strategic circles that even Santhanam’s ''admission'' was cloaked in politics, aimed primarily at warding off US pressure on New Delhi to sign CTBT, the long-sought treaty to ban nuclear tests, and making ground for a further series of tests. There is renewed energy in Washington under the Democratic dispensation to push forward with such nuclear containment treaties after the previous Bush administration put them on the backburner.

Some US nuclear gurus also believe any break-out test at this point will be detrimental to India, even if it is aimed at validating its thermo-nuclear device, or the so-called Hydrogen Bomb.

"An Indian test would be very toxic to cooperation it has just gained under the nuclear deal. It’s hard to see what India would gain," said Gary Milholin Director of the Wisconsin Project on Nuclear Arms Control.

Ensuring a reliable thermonuclear bomb? Milholin scoffed at the idea. "There are people who say American nuclear bombs won’t work because we have not tested for so long," he laughed. "I don’t think anyone would want to test that assumption."

Similarly, he said, it would be risky for any country to count on India’s thermonuclear weapon to have a low yield.

"There are now ways other than testing to increase confidence," Milholin added. "And I think India has enough computing power to do that."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ctbt; india; nuclear; nucleartest

1 posted on 08/27/2009 9:07:40 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

When are we going to see similiar hand-wringing over China’s nuclear tests?

:: crickets ::


2 posted on 08/27/2009 9:10:31 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"''You have to look at the DNA of a weapons designer. They always want to make the weapons smaller, lighter, more powerful,'' Sokolski added. ''If you blindfold them, tie their hands and leave them in the middle of a forest, they will still make their way to a test site.''

Typical idiotic statement of a leftwing moonbat.

Psst! Suckholoski, did you ever think making them clean would be a goal?

With India threatened by a bunch of nutty Muzzies armed with nukes on their front porch, (and China at the side door) who have been trying to wipe them out for the past 1000 years, I wouldn't worry about any proclamations Obama makes. Test away.

3 posted on 08/27/2009 9:19:42 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"Ensuring a reliable thermonuclear bomb? Milholin scoffed at the idea. "There are people who say American nuclear bombs won’t work because we have not tested for so long," he laughed. "I don’t think anyone would want to test that assumption."

I would. It would go a longs ways towards verifying the assumed long term storage and maintenance procedures of these devices. Plus test some new project designs that thus far only produce a yield calculated on paper and assuming the reaction works as designed to.

We have plenty of nice tropical atolls in the Pacific that haven't been used for many years now, and aren't much good for anything else. :o)

4 posted on 08/27/2009 9:35:54 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This disclosure and its timing appears to me a not-so-subtle attempt at creating a strong public opinion in India against signing the CTBT.

The question is whether it has been orchestrated by the Indian Government as a bargaining chip against the imminent pressure by Obama on CTBT or is it a case of dissent by a section of the scientific community (who fear that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh may commit India to CTBT during his November tour to Washington).

Manmohan Singh must indeed be credited with his visionary leadership and his courageous stand in promoting a closer relationship between India and United States. But it is no secret that the Indian strategic thinkers are extremely agitated with Obama Administration’s foreign policy priorities and Mr Singh’s shocking blunder on the Baluchistan issue in Sharm-el-Sheikh


5 posted on 08/28/2009 8:36:14 AM PDT by bongosantan
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To: bongosantan

I don’t know if Singh or pretty much any Indian (coalition) government can commit to the CTBT without incurring considerable political wrath back home. About Balochistan, I really can’t figure what all the noise is about-it binds India to nothing. It’s not a treaty, just a joint statement which has less value than the paper on which it is written.


6 posted on 08/28/2009 9:12:36 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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If India needs to go ahead and carry out nuclear weapon test it should carry out the tests. No Obama, UN, US, NPT, CTBT or nuclear deal should stand it her way. The nuclear deal is dead anyways. It would be a good time to carry out some nuclear testing. Pak will do a tit for tat, but it will be interesting to see how that will affect Obama’s AF-PAK calculations given the amount of money Zero is pouring in the region to buy and exit strategy from Pakistan.
7 posted on 08/28/2009 11:58:15 AM PDT by Rookie Cookie
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