Cpt Connie Rhodes, MD refuses deployment to Iraq until Obama’s legitimacy for CinC is verified

U.S.D.C. Western District of Texas ^ | 8/28/2009 | rxsid

[null and void]

David? Gatún? A moment of your time to comment on post #377, please?

[Red Steel]

I’ve thought many of the issues that DeckHand has presented. What I’m after is the truth to Obama’s origins through the court system. If it takes a little ‘judicial activism’ for our side so be it. ...at least it would be constitutional activism for a change.

[OldDeckHand]

"The otherside of the argument says if Obama never qualified to be president in the first place, in accordance with the 20th Amendment, therefore impeachment would not be necessary."

The 20th or the 25th? In any event, I don't pretend to be a Constitutional scholar. To describe this question as one with profound Constitutional implications, would be a tremendous understatement.

[OldDeckHand]

"If I understand what I think you just said, the only legal/constitutional avenue we have is to elect enough patriots to the house and senate to impeach him."

Short of losing reelection, I believe that to be the most likely scenario for his removal from office. I do think that the 25th presents some possibilities of theoretical interest, but I'm no expert in the Presidential succession.

I think the most important thing and realistic cause people should support are these statewide measures that require, with great specificity, what birth documents are acceptable to place a nominee on a ballot. I think that this avenue would provides for the most fruit for the labor with respect to this issue. If Obama can't place his name on a few electorally rich states, he's toast.

[Red Steel]

Profound indeed.

[ReignOfError]

Does British law determine US citizenship?

If the answer to that question is “no,” the rest of the meditations on British law are irrelevant.

[null and void]

Short of losing reelection, I believe that to be the most likely scenario for his removal from office.

Assuming, of course than no one is stupid enough to murder him.

That would be bad, very bad. Not only would it give the jihadi that most precious of all commodities -martyrdom- it would insure that every foul scheme he ever wanted would get implemented on the dead Kennedy plan.

At least while he's alive the republicans can put up some token resistance.

They are incapable of fighting a dead man.

[null and void]

If Obama can't place his name on a few electorally rich states, he's toast.

Politically he might be toast if he can't get on ONE state's ballot.

The MSM can hardly ignore that little factoid, and even Joe Sixpack might have a second thought or two.

[real_patriotic_american]

Orly Taitz is getting closer and closer to that grand slam.

[thecodont]

Politically he might be toast if he can't get on ONE state's ballot.

Would he have a "stand-in" in the other state ballots? As Róger Calero did in 2008?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Róger_Calero

Electoral campaigns

In 2004, Róger Calero was the SWP candidate for President of the United States and received 3,689 votes, with Arrin Hawkins running for Vice President. Because he is not a natural born citizen of the United States, Calero is ineligible to become U.S. president under the United States Constitution, and so James Harris, the Socialist Workers' Party presidential candidate from 2000, stood in on the ticket in nine states where Calero could not be listed, receiving 7,102 additional votes.

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Róger Calero again ran for President of the United States representing the SWP in the 2008 presidential election, together with Alyson Kennedy for vice-president. Again, James Harris stood in for Calero in several states. In the 2008 presidential election, Calero was on the ballot in five states, where he received 7,209 votes. Coupled with the 2,424 votes received in the five states where Harris was on the ballot.

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And what were the nine states where he could not be listed? Why were they so much more diligent in vetting Calero than the others?

[null and void]

In the 2008 presidential election, Calero was on the ballot in five states, where he received 7,209 votes. Coupled with the 2,424 votes received in the five states where Harris was on the ballot.

I'd bet if he was kept off the ballot in 5 states, 0bama could get 100 times as many votes!

[Gay State Conservative]

failure to obey a deployment order....court martial...conviction.I’m no expert on the UCMJ but at least some convictions in courts martial constitute a federal felony conviction.

[roaddog727]

That assumes a court martial will be convened. If a court martial is convened, the defendant is entitled to discovery.

Discovery would include:

All pertinent Records On Obama
Subpoenas on the DNC
Subpoenas on Pelosi
Subpoenas on Reid

etc.

so, do you think a Court Martial will be covened?

[OldDeckHand]

When people see the 25th Amendment, they almost immediately think about succession when a president passes away in office. But, there's a school of thought that says that the "the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide" may declare that the President is no longer able to discharge his powers.

Now, when that was written, it's fair to presume that the authors of that amendment intended it apply when the President was either physically or mentally incapacitated, and unable to fulfill his duties. An interesting question to ask is, what about a President being legally incapacitated? As an example, what if a court of law found that a President wasn't Constitutionally eligible to actually be President.

Does it have any merit? Who knows, but it's a interesting dinner-party discussion.

[verity]

Why not?

Whether verbal or written, a communicated order is valid.

[Sola Veritas]

“Active duty and regular army are not the same thing. Unless her commission came from attending at West Point...”

The rules have changed on commissions. All officers on regular* active duty, below the grade of Major, are on an equal footing regarding commissions - no matter the source. A commission through OCS, ROTC, or Service Academy are the same for RIF purposes. It isn’t until Major that someone in the regular army obtains a “regular” commission. That is one of the reasons why Majors and above, in the regular army, require Presidential and Senate confirmation before receiving their rank. Whereas Reserve and Guard officers only require SecDef approval for MAJ and LTC. Only ful COL of the Reserve and Guard require Senate approval.

*regular active duty is someone on active duty for initial service obligation or career. This is different from a reserve or guard officer that has been mobilized....they stay reserve or guard in their commissions. So basically all active duty officer, except mobilized reservists/guardmens, are “regular army.”

Yes, I know...it has changed a whole bunch.

[Rebelbase]

Crissy Matthews says Obama is the last Kennedy brother, so that means he was born in Boston.

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.journalofamericanhistory.org/teaching/2008_12/article.html

see footnote #25

[Jet Jaguar]

I’m sure he can ‘produce’ a Mass. Cert of Live Birth too.

[verity]

“New Law suit filed in the Western District of Texas. Flight Surgeon Cpt Connie Rhodes, MD refuses to be deployed to Iraq until Obama’s legitimacy for the position of the Commander in Chief is verified Orly Taitz, Esq”

After the appropriate Convening Authority conducts an [Article 32] investigation for violation of Article 134. However, I do not think even the SECDEF would initiate such an action because of the political implications.