Apparently, I'm in great company, along with the USA Today and at least a handful of HI state officials. From the USA Today website...
""I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."
Hawaii: Obama birth certificate is real
With that statement, and a Certification of Live Birth, Barack Obama will win any and all legal challenges, assuming that one of these cases is ever heard on the merits, which is wildly unlikely. That's just the way things work in the US legal system. The plaintiff has the burden of proof, not the defense. The plaintiff would have to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that all these people are lying, it's that simple.
Now, perhaps you have information that indicates Dr. Fukino is either an impostor, or part of Moveon.org or a space alien for that matter or maybe even USA Today fabricated the quote out of whole cloth. I don't know. But, if he's legit as well as the quote, then it's an uphill battle for any plaintiff challenging Obama.
I'm getting the feeling from our brief interaction that neither of you are people who listen to reason, so don't feel it necessary to respond. I'll take you silence as a protest of disagreement, and we'll call it a night.
You will take my silence as a protest of disagreement?
You have given me absolutely no time to respond!
A good lawyer would stay up a few more minutes and argue their point.
Quoting from the USA Today website? Please.
You are either a troll on this board, a Barry kool-aid drinker, or just have been living under a rock for the past year.
My suggestion is stop posting about an issue you know nothing about and either educate yourself on the Fraud we have in office or go take a big ‘ol swig of the kool-aid you have been drinking.
I guess do the one that gets you through the night.
Your joking...right? By what authority does a HI dept of health official make the determination that someone born Governed by Great Britain, is considered a “natural-born American citizen”?
“Obama has a Certification of Live Birth, that at least two HI government officials have publicly stated is legitimate, including the Governor. I’m assuming that those HI officials would swear to that in an affidavit. If so, that Certification of Live Birth is prima fascia evidence of birth - it’s settled US law.”
The state of Hawaii has refused to authenticate, according to WND, the COLB that Obama has published on the net. Fukino said she looked at the "vital records." Is that the hard copy birth certificate on file or did she only look at what the computer database says? What the defense needs to discover all the documentation that backs up the 'Vital Records' in the database. And Fukino's opinion on who is a natural born citizen is not relevant.
That 'statement' will need to be made in a court of law under oath, not as a quote on an internet website, correct?
Just as the original paper-copy of the Certification of Live Birth (showing the Seal and Stamp) will need to be shown.
The point that others are trying to make is:
1. The MSM is in the tank for BO and have twisted the issue in his favor.
2. There are four different actions that can produce the “fake” document BO put on line.
One even involves being born out of the country.
This may help you get up to speed:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2275574/posts
There are other links if you are truly interested in truth and not just disruption of the threads. IOW be a help or get out of the way.
She's certainly no Constitutional scholar.
See the sources the Founding Fathers used, for example, Vattel quoted long standing law of nations and asserted that natural born citizenship required BOTH being born in a country, AND being born of TWO citizens of that country.
The Founding Fathers wanted to insure that to hold that one singular office, the presidency of these United States, one had to be free of any hint of divided loyalties, allegiance, or affinity.
They specifically didn't want some Brit taking over the place.
Since Obama was born of a British Subject (I don't think anyone argues that point) he is, by birth, a British Subject, (and arguably a Kenyan as well!).
IF he was born in Honolulu, he's also an American citizen, but merely being born on US soil doesn't qualify one as a Natural Born Citizen.
If he was born elsewhere, under the laws in effect at the time, he wasn't even an American citizen at birth.
” With that statement, and a Certification of Live Birth, Barack Obama will win any and all legal challenges, “
What expertise does Dr Fukino have to declare anyone a natural born citizen ?
She needed a year of tutoring after graduating from college to get into the local medical school,
she’s not board certified
and her niche area of practice has focused on the medical needs of native Hawaiians,
like diet, weight control, blood pressure management.
She also hopes to incorporate Huna,
the ancient Hawaiian healing techniques of chanting, herbs ,spirituality and plants into her medical practice.
I can find nothing in her published educational background to indicate she has ever taken a course on the Constitution
or authenticating documents .
Her two statements have been ambiguous , poorly worded and beyond her professional bailiwick.
And they are the linchpins of those who say she has vindicated Obama.
I imagine a half way decent plaintiff’s attorney could easily impeach her.
Their side is constantly saying stuff that will do nothing more than cover their asses like this clown appears to be doing.
Let's take a closer look at what was said:
I Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural -born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago..."
Now what has this bureaucratic clown actually said?
Either:
1. He believes that zero was born in Hawaii.
2. He has seen the docs that purported that zero was born in Hawaii.
3.He has seen the docs. Makes no claim either way but continues to state that their is a claim zero was born is Hawaii.
4.He is stating that he saw some docs purporting zero was born in Hawaii and makes no claim whatsoever himself.
5.Did he write that he categorically agrees with what he saw,hardly, only that he saw the docs.
Truth is this is a very ambiguous statement and we really don't know what the hell this guy is saying. Probably a quote given to him by yet another legal beagle.
Absent his appearance in a court of law placing his hand on the bible we have no clue what he thinks and even then most of these clowns in Hawaii are either bought off or threatened with life ending situations for them or their family in good ol' chicago mob style, IMHO.
So you can make any claim you want but absent hard rock witnesses to his birth or other salient evidence I am keeping an open mind and this issue is far from being solved. Just my opinion.