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To: TomOnTheRun
In the quote you pulled he cites the testing from J. Rhine as well as results from tests with his own patients.

Actually, he falsely claimed that,"Scientific proof of that has been provided by the well-known J. B. Rhine experiments."

Computers are sentient if enough people simply believe that they are, just like "scientific proof" for supernatural powers has been provided simply because Jung believed the nonexistent proof existed.

There's a certain consistency between the two crackpot notions.

204 posted on 09/01/2009 2:49:41 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Mojave
Actually, he falsely claimed that,"Scientific proof of that has been provided by the well-known J. B. Rhine experiments."

The tests are there. The fact that new tests called those into question doesn't mean that people were out of bounds to refer to Rhine's before they were refuted. Jung also conducted tests on his own patients which seemed to imply something of greater than statistical probability. These were also later refuted. Until refuted it is not illegitimate to refer to them.

Computers are sentient if enough people simply believe that they are, just like "scientific proof" for supernatural powers has been provided simply because Jung believed the nonexistent proof existed.

That's not the point of the test. "Turing, for his part, never intended his test to be used as a practical, day-to-day measure of the intelligence of AI programs; he wanted to provide a clear and understandable example to aid in the discussion of the philosophy of artificial intelligence."

And my day of waiting is over. They are closing and will apparently not keep my appointment. Thank you for providing a diversion from the crap waiting lounge.
206 posted on 09/01/2009 2:58:43 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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