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To: Mojave
Sounds more like you don't get it.

The turing test is simply not directly comparable to a monkey and a mirror. The third participant and the human judgement makes it a different bowl of fish entirely.

I've heard that chimps can. But so what?

So... monkeys can, in fact, spot their own reflection as a reflection depending on the species of monkey. Bonobo monkeys not so much - other monkeys.. yes. As can chimps. And gorillas. Don't sell them short. I've met a gorilla with a 1,200 word vocabulary. I'm not sure some of my students have vocabularies that large. *grin*
26 posted on 09/01/2009 7:20:30 AM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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To: TomOnTheRun
The turing test is simply not directly comparable to a monkey and a mirror

I figured you couldn't explain yourself. Actual sentience does not exist by virtue of an external observer's belief in it, any more than another real monkey exists in the mirror's reflection.

So... monkeys can, in fact, spot their own reflection as a reflection depending on the species of monkey

Again, so what?

39 posted on 09/01/2009 7:29:32 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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