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The underside of war (Economist equates blowing smoke in the face to torture)
The Economist ^ | 8/27/09 | staff

Posted on 09/02/2009 7:37:06 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus

GEORGE BUSH’S “war on terror” left America with a scarred reputation and many disturbing questions. Barack Obama has said that he wants to move forward, rather than look back. That is understandable. The new president has an ambitious agenda. Prising open the lid on previous mistakes might unleash a political hornet-swarm. But this week, with Mr Obama bunkered on Martha’s Vineyard, an ugly past roared into the present.

On August 24th the Department of Justice released a report on the CIA’s interrogation of detainees abroad, written by the agency’s internal watchdog in 2004. More important, Eric Holder, the attorney-general, directed a prosecutor to review whether interrogators may have broken the law. The announcement is part of a growing push to address past wrongdoing, by both the government and private firms. On August 28th a federal judge will consider a suit charging Blackwater, a security contractor, with war crimes. Mr Holder’s announcement may even herald a new era of accountability. Those hoping for speedy reckonings, however, will probably be disappointed.

For some, the question is not why Mr Holder named a special prosecutor, but why no one did so earlier. The CIA’s watchdog gave the report to the Justice Department in 2004. At the time the department’s Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) was revisiting laws to support new “enhanced” methods of interrogation, such as waterboarding, which induces a sensation of drowning. The OLC’s guidelines included attempts at moderation, which would be comic if they were not so ghastly. If interrogators shoved a detainee against a wall, his neck was to be supported “with a rolled towel to prevent whiplash”.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: torture
None of this meets the UN's definition of torture. How is blowing cigar smoke in someone's face equivalent to Saddam Hussein's method of detonating small explosives that were attached to peoples' bodies. (I think I would take the smoke if I had a choice. Frankly if I were a detainee there is nothing I have see so far on the CIA menu that I would not be afraid to undergo - including waterboarding. This is a joke, it is not torture.)

A lot of fake outrage in this political witch hunt as they disassociate attention from the staggering mismanagement of this economy by staging this Stalinst mock trial.

Shoving people against a wall is now called torture! Give me a break.

Obama is dreadfully endangering America. This is akin to Clinton, Kerry and Tenet dismantling the CIA in the 90's and not recruiting an agent for 5 years. Then they wonder why we were attacked on 9/11. Obama is doing the exact same thing.

1 posted on 09/02/2009 7:37:06 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus
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To: Titus-Maximus

If this is torture, then thousands if not millions of people are tortured every year.


2 posted on 09/02/2009 7:50:39 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: Titus-Maximus; knews_hound
blowing cigar smoke

When I initiate people into the Clampers ... I blow cigar smoke into the candidates face. It's an old American indian tradition. What a load of wussified crap

3 posted on 09/02/2009 8:21:30 AM PDT by clamper1797 (If Obama were a paid Soviet agent he could not do more damage ... Sen Thomas Jordan)
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To: Titus-Maximus

What about all the smoke that Obama is blowing up the collective ass of the American people?

Are we being tortured?


4 posted on 09/02/2009 8:30:41 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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