Posted on 09/03/2009 10:25:47 AM PDT by NYer
The Spanish Inquisition deserves neither the exaggerated praise nor the equally exaggerated vilification often bestowed on it. The number of victims cannot be calculated with even approximate accuracy; the much maligned autos-da-fé were in reality but a religious ceremony (actus fidei); the San Benito has its counterpart in similar garbs elsewhere; the cruelty of St. Peter Arbues, to whom not a single sentence of death can be traced with certainty, belongs to the realms of fable.
However, the predominant ecclesiastical nature of the institution can hardly be doubted. The Holy See sanctioned the institution, accorded to the grand inquisitor canonical installation and therewith judicial authority concerning matters of faith, while from the grand inquisitor jurisdiction passed down to the subsidiary tribunals under his control.
Joseph de Maistre introduced the thesis that the Spanish Inquisition was mostly a civil tribunal; formerly, however, theologians never questioned its ecclesiastical nature. Only thus, indeed, can one explain how the Popes always admitted appeals from it to the Holy See, called to themselves entire trials and that at any stage of the proceedings, exempted whole classes of believers from its jurisdiction, intervened in the legislation, deposed grand inquisitors, and so on.
Yes, I was going to ask; who is Penn and Teller?
Oh yes they have. They called it a disgrace.
That's it? Wow, some Mohammad bashing that is. I'd love to see them bash Islam in general like they do Christianity.
Maybe target one or two big ones.
Agreed. The show is often very good, but Penn insists on cheapening it with pointless, adolescent profanity and gratuitous T&A for no good reason. That's why I don't watch it much anymore. It's not offensive. It's just lame.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
However, the Catholic Church has, and is still actively protecting members of its clergy who have molested children.
Why in the world are they promoting this thing?
Do you also think the Holocaust Museum is “promoting” genocide because it runs videos of atrocities to make people aware of the truth?
Thread/Link?
Let’s see an entire episode dedicated to Mohammed’s crimes against humanity. Let’s see another dedicated to the subsequent crimes, atrocities and barbarism done in thee pedophile SOB prophet’s name. Put them both together, make it an hour-long special.
I’ll be holding my breath.
LOL, are you really equating what Penn and Teller did with the holocaust?
Some idiot child has got it all wrong.
Everyone knows it is not the Catholics who are the cause of all evil.
It’s Da JOOOOZ!
Ask any Muslim.
/sarc
It should be apparent to all that network TV ad sales are down and such programs are a last ditch move to stave off the coming financial end of lame stream media.
Their show would be so much better on regular CBS where they would be forced to be creative instead of just sticking F words where the jokes should be. I think because they are on Showtime they feel obligated to do this over the top schtick just because they can.
No, I was making an analogy that was intended to be powerful and clear, even in the extreme.
Again, too subtle, it appears.
I can’t believe this. NBC let CBS get the jump on them when it comes to Catholic bashing? Unbelievable.
That’s the problem with pretty much everything on HBO and Showtime (with the exception of the Sopranos). Everybody feels the need to be “too hot for TV” and ends up sounding absurd.
Or you can just ask Bill Donohue...
"Who really cares what Hollywood thinks? All these hacks come out there. Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular. Its not a secret, OK? And Im not afraid to say it. Thats why they hate this movie. Its about Jesus Christ, and its about truth. Its about the messiah."Related threads:
These idiots obviously don't have a clue about history.
Historians estimate that between 3-5 thousand people were killed by the Spanish Inquisition... that's it! 3 to 5 THOUSAND.
Compare that to the 61,000,000, yep 61 MILLION that the soviet communists killed, or if you prefer a medieval comparison Henry VIII is estimated to have executed over 72,000.
What about Bloody Mary you say? she only executed 300, yep 3 HUNDRED.
It is obvious to me people with hidden agendas are pushing the lie that the church and its supporters have committed the worst crimes in history, when the facts don't even come close to supporting that claim.
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